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Old 09-15-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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What?
It was your scenario.

Like with the fake guns they had to plant in Baltimore?

Notable testimony from the Baltimore Police Gun Trace Task Force corruption trial - Baltimore Sun
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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I'm telling you what a local news report stated what at least one of the witnesses said. The witness was reported saying they didn't tell their story to the police, but later told it to the lawyer to counteract the Police narrative. Maybe it's the witness lying or mistaken. Seems like the witness and the lawyer have a bias.

The official story makes the most sense. If she went there intentionally to confront him, she would've came up with a less incriminating story like he attacked her and likely would've planted a knife or something.

Well, if the police is telling the truth they are certainly bias, the latest news are focusing on the marijuana found in his apartment, but her blood test results have not been revealed.
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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That has been my belief long before this particular incident.
I consider it more of a part of the "American culture" and don't believe any politician can easily change that. The only way to change a culture is to have enough people change their minds.
That can be as hard as converting people to a different religion and that process by itself can generate a lot of conflicts. But gun vendors exist because people are buying them. Every time a politician says a new restriction is coming the gun sales get stimulated. Ironically a gun vendor went bankrupt because the current president says no restriction would be enacted.


I've seen way too much how guns can cause harms and often times in unintended ways.
Too many people use guns to settle things that could have been resolved in more peaceful methods simply because they have access to them.


Frequently people shoot during domestic disputes, some of those even include police officers.
Then there are people who shoot due to road rage, due to being laid off, due to a business deal gets cancelled, due to losing in a video game contest, or even due to accidents when the triggers got pulled unintentionally and then kill someone. I also remember that case when a woman killed her whole family using the gun from grandfather who said to use it to protect the family.


But despite all that, it is very hard to raise the concern against the religion called gun ownership.
it is a religion, and you cannot really fight a religion.... Therefore the only alternative is to face the reality and do what we can to protect ourselves and family members assuming guns will be with us during our entire lives unless we move to a different country.


But, but, but an armed society is a polite society!!
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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Tell us, what was on the end tables? Did you get any pictures?
Don't be silly. Just read the police report, not the newspapers, but the actual report. If he did open the door, he backed way away.
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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Probably, but that's what I said she wasn't getting unusual special treatment compared to what any other cop or official gets.
I misunderstood you. "Pardon me. My mistake."
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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Don't be silly. Just read the police report, not the newspapers, but the actual report. If he did open the door, he backed way away.
He likely did. The point is, he opened the door. That is not either of her stories.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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He likely did. The point is, he opened the door. That is not either of her stories.
Absolutely no indication that he opened the door. If he had the whole thing would never have happened. Or if he stayed in bed...nothing would have happened. The whole thing is a sequence of very improbable events. Anyone break the sequence and it does not happen.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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Absolutely no indication that he opened the door. If he had the whole thing would never have happened. Or if he stayed in bed...nothing would have happened. The whole thing is a sequence of very improbable events. Anyone break the sequence and it does not happen.
He never left his door opened. It didn't happen.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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He likely did. The point is, he opened the door. That is not either of her stories.
That makes no sense. Why would he open the door for her? Why would she knock on the door if she believed it was her own apartment?
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:18 PM
 
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That makes no sense. Why would he open the door for her? Why would she knock on the door if she believed it was her own apartment?
Why would he open the door? That's what you do when someone knocks on it. She never thought it was her apartment.
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