Off-duty Cop walks into the wrong apartment after her shift, shoots and kills the man in who lives there. (Edwards, federal)

[brownbagg]

i bet its more like, they was dating, he broke it off, and she got ****

[TinaTwo]

Yes I believe she is guilty of at least manslaughter , and there are a lot of holes and changes in her story. Unfortunately the victim is dead and can’t tell his side of the story. I also think it’s terrible how they’ve been trying to go through his apartment and make him out to be a criminal. He didn’t do anything wrong. If she can’t tell her own apartment she shouldn’t be out using a gun.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Synopsis101

First or second version?

There is no indication that any definitive statement has been made by her. All of which I am aware are second hand of little value.

[glass_of_merlot]

Originally Posted by thefragile

Shrug, like I said, deliberate action, not an accident. So you can stop with the “accident” nonsense.

I stop when I feel like stopping. And I never called the shooting an accident. However, I don't believe it was murder. And you can shoot somebody for various reasons. Cold blooded murder, being reckless ( this case ), self defense.
You are way to emotional by the way.

[Synopsis101]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

There is no indication that any definitive statement has been made by her. All of which I am aware are second hand of little value.

You just stated that her version is fact... which version is that?

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I would think that this is similar to a drink driver killing someone -it doesn't matter if the killing was intentional, someone died because another made the wrong decision.

Served on any juries lately?

1--it does matter very much if a killing is INTENTIONAL--that means with malice a forethought in the law
2--even an UNINTENTIONAL killing can be considered manslaughter if the person doing the killing should have realized his/her actions could lead to someone's death--
Like the police officer SHOULD have realized she was at the wrong person's door
Like the police officer didn't really wait to assess the situation---she overreacted or at least the story she tells portrays her as overreacting to seeing someone in "her" apartment...

Consider this a negligent homicide example--based on the excellent example in the movie "Michael Clayton" with George Clooney as an attorney for a big NYC law firm who is the "fixer" like Cohen for Trump--

Case of a person under the influence who runs a red light and strikes someone in the crosswalk--
That it at least depraved indifference manslaughter charge--
You knew drinking could lead to you being impared as a driver--
You drank and drove anyway
You ran a red light--a violation in its own right even w/o being under the influence
You struck a pedestrian who was legitimately in the crosswalk
That person died because of YOUR actions...
Ergo you are responsible for a death even if you didn't set out to do it purposely/intentionally...but you did leave the site of the drinking impaired to drive...

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Synopsis101

You just stated that her version is fact... which version is that?

No I stated that reports have so stated but they deal with gross stuff such as where the officer and victim were when the shots were fired. I am unaware of any reports that directly quote the officer on the door opening and such.

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

There is no indication that any definitive statement has been made by her. All of which I am aware are second hand of little value.

There would not have been a charge issued if she had not made a "definitive" statement--in a real investigation

If she equivocated, changed her story, gave a description that was contrary to what the physical/forensic evidence describes then her statement is flawed in its quality to an intent that it becomes suspect

Now if the investigating officers allow her to get away with making conflicting statements or statements against facts that exist in forensic evidence they are covering up a crime and actually become accessories AFTER the fact--and could be charged as such if their conspiracy came to light...

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by loves2read

Served on any juries lately?

1--it does matter very much if a killing is INTENTIONAL--that means with malice a forethought in the law
2--even an UNINTENTIONAL killing can be considered manslaughter if the person doing the killing should have realized his/her actions could lead to someone's death--
Like the police officer SHOULD have realized she was at the wrong person's door
Like the police officer didn't really wait to assess the situation---she overreacted or at least the story she tells portrays her as overreacting to seeing someone in "her" apartment...

Consider this a negligent homicide example--based on the excellent example in the movie "Michael Clayton" with George Clooney as an attorney for a big NYC law firm who is the "fixer" like Cohen for Trump--

Case of a person under the influence who runs a red light and strikes someone in the crosswalk--
That it at least depraved indifference manslaughter charge--
You knew drinking could lead to you being impared as a driver--
You drank and drove anyway
You ran a red light--a violation in its own right even w/o being under the influence
You struck a pedestrian who was legitimately in the crosswalk
That person died because of YOUR actions...
Ergo you are responsible for a death even if you didn't set out to do it purposely/intentionally...but you did leave the site of the drinking impaired to drive...

Cop running after a suspect trips on as curb, falls and his gun goes off killing a bystander. Manslaughter?

Cop in an active shoot out with an armed perp kills a hostage. Manslaughter?

Cop answering an armed home invasion call kills the armed home owner. Manslaughter?

Where is the line?

[Ralph_Kirk]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Cop running after a suspect trips on as curb, falls and his gun goes off killing a bystander. Manslaughter?

Cop in an active shoot out with an armed perp kills a hostage. Manslaughter?

Cop answering an armed home invasion call kills the armed home owner. Manslaughter?

Where is the line?

Cop off-duty who enters the wrong apartment after a series of rookie errors and shoots the owner of the apartment.

There, that's the line.