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Old 10-12-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post
How is the government supposed to find out a woman secretly had an abortion at home? I think those who want abortion banned want it out of sight and out of mind, nothing more. That would be done by closing all abortion clinics.
So, for those people , murder is ok as long as they don't see it? That's quite a novel position to take - full of all kinds of disastrous implications.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Anybody who is opposed to abortion should just look at what the crime rate was in this country before women were allowed to have abortions. If you truly hate crime you should welcome a woman's right to choose.
Yes, this.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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Anybody who is opposed to abortion should just look at what the crime rate was in this country before women were allowed to have abortions. If you truly hate crime you should welcome a woman's right to choose.
I don't know about that, but I do welcome the fact that Liberals are eating their young.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Prosecuting a charge of fetal homicide ends any privacy the pregnant woman would have had regarding her pregnancy. Roe is based on exactly such privacy. As such, Roe is a deeply flawed ruling.
Stop, just stop. Your logic is the only thing that is flawed.

Using your logic, since people file medical malpractice suits we should do away with HIPAA.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Again, as a guy I’ve never considered having an abortion! However, I will say that my wife came as close as can be to aborting our 3rd. We were young and had a 2 1/2 year old and a 9 month old. #3 was an “accident.”

We obviously discussed an abortion but I quickly realized that while I’m an interested party, it’s totally her decision. She decided that she wanted an abortion, even though, at the time, she was a staunch Catholic. She called her doctor who said he doesn’t do abortions and he gave her another doctor’s name. Several times she started calling that doctor and each time, she stopped. We had #3

I ain’t a lawyer, but IMO, it’s solely the mother’s decision - I or no one can tell her what to do

BTW, we still love our #3!
So "to slaughter" or "to NOT slaughter" is only the mother's call? We're not talking about getting boob implants, or ear piercings, we are talking about slaughtering the most-innocent among us. Hell, they can't even fight back, run, crawl, scream or cry, and you think that there is nobody else "at interest" other than the mother? The FIRST roll of government is to protect the people, including little tiny ones who can't even pay taxes yet.

Well at least it is Liberals who are eating their young long before they hit the voter rolls.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Are you really so naive as to believe only liberals have abortions?
No of course not, but overwhelmingly they are Democrat voters, and that is good enough for me. The LAST thing we need are more Democrat voters.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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No of course not, but overwhelmingly they are Democrat voters, and that is good enough for me. The LAST thing we need are more Democrat voters.
What valid data source supports this statement? Seems about as crack pot extremist as the political groups (representing both sides) with their commercials.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why should one be left up to the states and not the other?
Sorry, I didn’t write that very clear. Both issues should be left up to the states to decide, although abortion should be for the first trimester only. IMO, gay marriage should be legal in all fifty states, it’s ridiculous to have one state legalize marriage and another not. Does this mean the couple has no rights in a state where their marriage is not legal? I have gay friends and they are good people, I support this issue and hope all states eventually do as well.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Stop, just stop. Your logic is the only thing that is flawed.
No, it is not, and it scares the crap out of you that what I'm saying is true. There is no semblance of privacy when a public DA can prosecute a perp for fetal homicide without the mother's consent. Roe, based on the issue of privacy, is a seriously flawed ruling.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't know about that, but I do welcome the fact that Liberals are eating their young.
https://mavenroundtable.io/theintell...7Ueb8w/?full=1

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During his divorce trial, it came to light that DesJarlais had supported his wife’s decision to have two abortions before the two were married — but that’s not all.

The Tennessee congressman and former doctor also allegedly pushed a 24-year-old patient, with whom he was having an extramarital affair, to get an abortion as well.
Plenty of conservatives approve of abortion when it is to their benefit, don't kid yourself.

Plenty of conservative women have abortions and plenty of conservative men are glad when they do.

There are going to be a lot of men paying a HUGE price $$$ if Roe v Wade is ever overturned.
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