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Old 09-11-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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You as an agnostic cannot make up your mind; you either believe or you don’t. You either have faith or not. You are truly misguided and confused. Hope you find the truth one day.
This answer is hypocritical. You are judging someone because he stated he was agnostic and that is not for you to deem him misguided because only Jesus can judge. You stated this yourself so your reply to this post is contradicting itself.

 
Old 09-11-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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Muslims.
Nope, Christians. And the anti LGBT hate groups in countries like Uganda and Nigeria are often funded and encouraged by evangelicals in the US.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:17 PM
 
Location: USA
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In the US, evangelical Christians are far more hostile to the LGBT community than Muslims are. American Muslims tend to be of the more moderate variety. Radical Islamist more common in the Middle East..
American Muslims more open to LGBT communities than Christians? Guess that explains the thousands of gay friendly mosques in the US...not Guess they dont practice what you preach. On the other hand, thank goodness there are Thousands of LGBT friendly churches. Shall I supply the links?
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Mosaic/OT law does not apply to Christians. Jesus himself did not follow some of those. Why did he heal a sick man on the Sabbath, or saved a women from being stoned to death for adultery? That’s mosaic law.
Great news! That includes the Mosaic and Levitican laws, including the Ten Commandments and all edicts against homosexuality, tattoos, dietary laws, wearing cloth made of multiple fibers, and you don't have to stone your wife to death for not being a virgin.

Very progressive. Thanks for the info!

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Old 09-11-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Nothing bad has been done in the name of Christianity as it cannot be justified in the name of Christ. What happened during the crusades 1000 years ago was to protect Christians from being brutally murdered by the Muslims there was no other choice but to defend.
Such as the Spanish Inquisition and burning heretics at the stake? You have a very interesting idea of the infallibility of Christian doctrine.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Shouldn’t a religious institution be revoked its tax exemption and even perhaps be banned or not protected under the First Amendment for spreading violence, hatred or spread messages that homosexuality, apostasy, adultery, etc. carries death penalty and encourage its adherents to blow themselves up or kill somebody because of what is written in the Islamic and Jewish scriptures? I think it’s absurd and quite threatening.

Many Muslims and religious Jews spread violence and/or hatred to our societies which is incompatible especially in the 21st Century and the Western world.

Why should the American government give those synagogues and mosques tax exemption when they show hate and violence?!
Here we go again.

Sorry, you're not going to get the majority of Americans to agree to jettison the First. Your sly little questions fool no one.

You might, however, get a majority of Americans to agree that religious groups should no longer receive preferential tax treatment.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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American Muslims more open to LGBT communities than Christians? Guess that explains the thousands of gay friendly mosques in the US...not Guess they dont practice what you preach. On the other hand, thank goodness there are Thousands of LGBT friendly churches. Shall I supply the links?
Most of whom are filled with people who lean Democratic and are socially progressive and aren't considered "true Christians" by the Trump supporting evangelicals.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Most of whom are filled with people who lean Democratic and are socially progressive and aren't considered "true Christians" by the Trump supporting evangelicals.

I'd take that as high praise!
 
Old 09-11-2018, 06:40 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The constitution has absolutely nothing to do with allowing charitable tax deductions or exempting religions from paying full property taxes or other taxes as if they were a business or anything else.

It doesn't say Osteen should be able to deduct a private jet.
Yah, the other action in the OP was banning a religion or religions. Which means you'd have to rewrite the Constitution on "no religious test to hold office". & I assume that similar language is in the state constitutions.

& if you're going to exempt some religions from taxes but not others, you'd have to have some kind of justification for that - & there goes the 1st amendment to the Constitution, in any event.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I am beginning to suspect this, rather strongly.
It's just the same as someone who claims to be a patriotic American, but makes all Americans look bad, with hateful statements and actions against others. The most extreme example of this, is currently right in front of us.
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