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Why do think that Kavanaugh's and Judge's denials are more reliable than her claims? Have they provided any evidence that they were elsewhere during that time?
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Originally Posted by mash123
What time for gods sake? Do you have a date?
they can barely even manage a year, never mind a date.
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Why do you keep repeating this lie? No one who was not in that room can say whether she lied or didn't lie. They were not there.
when they can't support their points they just copy Trump and repeat things they know are not true.
everyone here knows Kavanaugh has a bunch of lies he told under oath, at least half a dozen are easy to prove in a criminal court. the question is are they serious enough to meet the threshold to prosecute.
BUT they are clearly bad enough to disqualify him. his lies alone bar him. the accusations of sex crimes, poor temperament. He is simply not a high quality candidate.
Her sister in laws are not the same as HER family.
It appears that most of her husband's family support her ..... they are all quite Left wing and certainly never knew Chrissy when she was a teenager.
I personally thought that it was more than odd that her Husband didn't come to D.C. with Ford to be with her at the hearing.
Perhaps he has that claustrophobic fear of flying.
Ford brought the charges as a mature successful adult with (as far as I know) a good reputation and an enormous amount to lose. No one is alleging that Chrissy attacked Ford as a teenager or even is particularly to blame in the alleged situation. Perhaps your point is that she was psychologically disturbed when 15 1/2 in a manner that is relevant to a later allegation?
Since you think personal politics are relevant to support, her birth family are conservative Republicans. They continue to live in the same elite neighborhood (common clubs with Kavanaugh family), and according to a lengthly, multi-sourced article that was cited earlier, are in a difficult situation with friends and neighbors taking sides. Her parents are elderly.
The article described Ford as having a continued, loving relationship with her birth family. But it doesn't take much imagination to suppose they may not have been in favor of her going public. Her husband's stance is less clear. The family appears to desire privacy. That he at least keep his face off the national stage might well be desirable.
It's not just Trump's lying; it's his general debauched character, which includes his lies, his assault on women (most of whom he's paid off), his theft of people's money with his fake university, his ripping-off of people who worked for him, his refusal to even educate himself about the Constitution or even his job, etc. Even a cursory review of his long, sordid history would tell anyone who he really is. The list goes on: just ask the folks in NY, who've been watching "The Trump Show" for 40 years.
All of that was known....and he still got elected.
(I didn't vote for him)
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It's mind-boggling that Republicans bought his I'm-for-the-little-guy crap.
1. 9% of Democrats voted for Trump (according to the New York Times)
2. The New York Times divided voters into six income groups. Trump won the top four, Hillary the bottom two. Those Trump voters probably cared more about a chance re paying less in taxes, and the Supreme Court, than they did about a number of other issues.
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And they remain useful to him, so from time to time, he holds one of his little "rallies," where the faithful gather in hopes of touching his robes, and he spouts off more fear-mongering, race-baiting lies to keep them riled up, while he enjoys their obedient worship of him--and then he flies back to one of his many golf courses, satisfied that he's still got them in his pocket until he needs them again. Donald Trump is a con man, always has been, has just never conned on this scale before. There's a reason he couldn't carry New York--and it's not the "elites" who didn't vote for him, it was the common New Yorker who didn't vote for him, throughout the entire state, because they know him better than anyone.
I've got to give you credit for the bolded. That is d**n funny.
It's not a lie. Every single one of Ford's witnesses say she made a false statement, nothing she said was true.
Ford claimed her best friend, Leland Ingham was there with Kavanaugh at the party. Leland testified under oath that she not only never remembers anything like what Ford says happened, but she denied ever meeting Kavanaugh.
You are absolutely wrong. They said only they don't recall.
when they can't support their points they just copy Trump and repeat things they know are not true.
everyone here knows Kavanaugh has a bunch of lies he told under oath, at least half a dozen are easy to prove in a criminal court. the question is are they serious enough to meet the threshold to prosecute.
BUT they are clearly bad enough to disqualify him. his lies alone bar him. the accusations of sex crimes, poor temperament. He is simply not a high quality candidate.
So your underhanded smear campaign of lies and make believe stories aren't going very well so now you'll grasp at straws, anything at all without any merit to disqualify him. Good luck with that. You should now be saving your energy for whoever is nominated to replace the next Justice. It's only a matter of time before Trump has 3 Justices confirmed.
Ford is criticized for not having mentioned Kavanaugh by name until she supposedly saw his name on Romney's SCOTUS short list in 2012. One reason to discount the theory this is some plot is that surely there were a bunch of other potential nominees for her to set some stage to later torpedo?
But the one she picks turns out to have behaviors (the drinking) that make a sexual assault more likely. And she knew this how? To answer my own question ... she knew of Kavanaugh and that matched his high school reputation. Fine ... and agree that doesn't make him a proved attempted rapist.
Still ... the coincidence ... a woman who wants to play very dirty politics ... who just happens to know a potential nominee who's behaved in a manner that leaves him more open to a smear ... and who starts to set the stage in 2012 ... but this same woman is supposed to be so ditzy because she can't remember various details?
Because that's so unlikely (really) many concede that "something" did happen but it just wasn't Kavanaugh. How that might play out isn't at all clear from this thread ... but it plays back to a ditzy-but-no-plot scenario.
Part of the reason I tend to "believe" Ford is not so much because she has some airtight case (there IS no corroborating evidence) but because the alternate theories make even less sense.
Are you forgetting that her original therapists notes left 4 blank slots for assailants/accomplices to be filled in?
Anyway, how many people can one alleged victim credibly accuse. The nominee had to be someone she could establish history/ties/connections with.
The endgame is that Trump and the GOP are desperate to get Kavanaugh onto the Supreme Court, since his belief is that a sitting POTUS cannot be indicted during a term of office: https://www.politico.com/blogs/under...ndicted-709641
They know what's coming down the Mueller pike and it is the only hope they have against impeachment.
The majority party waiting until the the night before the hearing of a SCOTUS nominee to dump thousands of documents for Dems to review before the hearing the next day, and for only giving them 10 percent of the documents.
LOL.
Sadder still is a omnibus budget bill of hundreds/thousands of pages dumped on congress by leadership and ask them to vote on it without a chance to read it. A bipartisan cluster**** is the norm or SOP regardless of issue.
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I've got to give you credit for the bolded. That is d**n funny.
What excuses for delaying the USSC vote will Dems come up with next, after the 1-week FBI investigation they demanded is
