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Very refreshing to see a different angle for a change.
There is NO dichotomy like the dichotomy between the descendants of slaves and whites. Talk of racism and its impact is largely an issue of black and white....or should be. Hispanics are seen as "hard workers", while Asians are viewed as "intelligent". Whites don't associate anything positive about black people....other than sports and entertainment. Blacks are seen as inferior by a good percentage of whites and that is an inherited belief passed down from generation to generation.
Our problems are not "minority" or "people of color" problems. When our problems get lumped in as minority or people of color problems, those other groups will loose respect for blacks because when blacks complain about a problem we have with racism.....they likely don't have the problem in degree or kind as blacks do and hence....they may think we are embellishing it or making it up because its not that way with them, they may thing, and they are minorities too.
I think its just laziness or muddying the water. America just threw all groups in with blacks....women, Latinos, gays, etc. More people benefit from the struggles of black history and policies....than black people.
Other minority groups weren't discriminated in college environments of the past because they all came from either educated or wealthy backgrounds. Today it's totally different, all walks of life in college whether they have the merit for it or not, ie actual intelligence not just the ability to pass tests. African Americans were shut out because they had black only colleges then.
Other minority groups weren't discriminated in college environments of the past because they all came from either educated or wealthy backgrounds. Today it's totally different, all walks of life in college whether they have the merit for it or not, ie actual intelligence not just the ability to pass tests. African Americans were shut out because they had black only colleges then.
The past might have been simpler for some groups but not in the way many may think.
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Seriously are you guys unaware of what's been going right here not just among those of massah's house but even among those overseeing the fields?
Today it's totally different, all walks of life in college whether they have the merit for it or not, ie actual intelligence not just the ability to pass tests.
If test taking (presuming no cheating) is not a criteria of merit then what is?
Other minority groups weren't discriminated in college environments of the past because they all came from either educated or wealthy backgrounds. Today it's totally different, all walks of life in college whether they have the merit for it or not, ie actual intelligence not just the ability to pass tests. African Americans were shut out because they had black only colleges then.
I think you missed the point of the OP. They were NOT minorities back then.
Jim Crow laws exclusively discriminated against people of African descent, everyone else was considered to be white.
I think you missed the point of the OP. They were NOT minorities back then.
Jim Crow laws exclusively discriminated against people of African descent, everyone else was considered to be white.
Jim Crow laws were in the south, not the whole country.
The racial identity politics varied according to regional & imperial massah.
There was a class of "Nordic Negroids" like Walter White, Dubois & Clayton Powell that would be classified as negro when it was convenient for x group then nordic for the other.
Not putting any value judgement on this, just pointing this out.
Our problems are not "minority" or "people of color" problems. When our problems get lumped in as minority or people of color problems, those other groups will loose respect for blacks because when blacks complain about a problem we have with racism.....they likely don't have the problem in degree or kind as blacks do and hence....they may think we are embellishing it or making it up because its not that way with them, they may thing, and they are minorities too.
All the other minority groups are new political fabrications. That was the point of the op. In the era of segregation, there were no other minority groups. Read the first-hand accounts of segregation. Asians and Latin Americans were actually considered white and were not excluded.
Listener says even the Tahitian girl at school was considered white in the 50s.
All the other minority groups are new political fabrications. That was the point of the op. In the era of segregation, there were no other minority groups. Read the first-hand accounts of segregation. Asians and Latin Americans were actually considered white and were not excluded.
Listener says even the Tahitian girl at school was considered white in the 50s.
Inaccurate. Asians suffered worse discrimination than blacks in 19th century America. Blacks attained full citizenship in 1868 with the passage of the 14th Amendment. Asians were denied citizenship until well into the 20th century. https://asiasociety.org/education/as...s-then-and-now
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By 1924, with the exception of Filipino "nationals," all Asian immigrants, including Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Indians were fully excluded by law, denied citizenship and naturalization, and prevented from marrying Caucasians or owning land.
The very existence of blacks was grudgingly accepted in the 19th century, but there were major efforts to banish all Asians from America. Asians still suffer official discrimination to this day in college admissions. https://waasians4equality.org/
When black actress Lena Horne was starting her career in Hollywood in the 40s, the studios tried to get her to pass for white by saying that she was Latin.
Another passing story.
Langston Hugues successfully passed for white in Texas by pretending to be a Mexican:
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Some black Americans used ethnic Mexicans' legal claims to whiteness to their benefit. Langston Hughes, who emerged as a top figure in the Harlem Renaissance literati in the 1920s, knew that Mexican's white legal status and his own light skin, could allow him to shirk segregation in Texas in the early twentieth century.
Hughes was raised in Kansas, but his father left the family and moved to Mexico to escape racism. As a child, young Langston took the train from the Midwest to Mexico City to visit his father, and the route took him through Texas. During one of his first trips with his mother and grandmother, in around 1906, the black family could not purchase hot food from the dining car when they were hungry because of racial restrictions.
When returning home from a summer in Mexico City as a teenager, however, Hughes found a way to access white accommodations. Hughes recalled "[T]he only way I could purchase sleeping car space after I crossed the border into Texas was by pretending to be Mexican." The young man ignored the Jim Crow signs and asked for a berth by speaking Spanish. He also ate in the diner all the way across Texas by pretending not to speak English."
LMAO. Another funny thread, let me guess the OP is not a minority.
Let me give you a hint we ARE all different and just because anyone can quote a person from a group does not mean that this is the final and all encompassing answer for that entire group.
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