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Old 11-08-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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Well OK. How many miles?
We always assume you can look that up. Better yet, you can look up the money put forward into border security since any decent policies involve more than a fence.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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and your rant has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Your deflection doesn't explain why Trump still doesn't have his wall even though he has a favorable Congress.

remember this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsx2IyhGlow

Geez, are you that ill informed? Trump asked for the funding for the wall in exchange for DACA but the Democrats refused. They only offered a mere pittance of the funds requested. Don't even get me started on Mexico paying for the wall again as it's been explained and re-hashed over and over in here. It's not Trump's wall anyway. It's the wall already approved by congress back in 2006 that never got built and it's for 700 miles not 2,000 miles as another poster in here just claimed.


You and yours don't want the wall anyway (and it's not based on the costs or that the good walls don't work) but a sinister anti-American agenda. Too bad you anti-wall people won't admit it at least it would show some honesty for a change.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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He did not have "full" control, the Republicans had a narrow lead (1 seat) in the Senate and a small buffer in the house which was not enough to build the wall without compromise with senate Democrats.
So in other words all his blather about building a wall was all pie in the sky bs.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Geez, are you that ill informed? Trump asked for the funding for the wall in exchange for DACA but the Democrats refused. They only offered a mere pittance of the funds requested. Don't even get me started on Mexico paying for the wall again as it's been explained and re-hashed over and over in here. It's not Trump's wall anyway. It's the wall already approved by congress back in 2006 that never got built and it's for 700 miles not 2,000 miles as another poster in here just claimed.


You and yours don't want the wall anyway (and it's not based on the costs or that the good walls don't work) but a sinister anti-American agenda. Too bad you anti-wall people won't admit it at least it would show some honesty for a change.
Regardless of what the President thinks, repeating false information doesn't make it correct. The original DACA deal reached between Trump, Schumer and Pelosi EXPLICITLY did not include funding for the wall. That is well documented including a link I posted upthread.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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Geez, are you that ill informed? Trump asked for the funding for the wall in exchange for DACA but the Democrats refused. They only offered a mere pittance of the funds requested. Don't even get me started on Mexico paying for the wall again as it's been explained and re-hashed over and over in here. It's not Trump's wall anyway. It's the wall already approved by congress back in 2006 that never got built and it's for 700 miles not 2,000 miles as another poster in here just claimed.

You and yours don't want the wall anyway (and it's not based on the costs or that the good walls don't work) but a sinister anti-American agenda. Too bad you anti-wall people won't admit it at least it would show some honesty for a change.
Might be maybe you are the one seemingly unable to properly understand opinion different from yours...

No matter how many times you want to attempt a revamp of what Trump meant when he said he was going to build a wall that Mexico would pay for, most of us well remember what Trump said, more than a few times now to double down in typical Trump fashion. Not only a wall that Mexico would pay for but that Mexico will "easily" pay for. You who are so well "informed" can easily pull up any of the many Trump quotes about this along with Mexico's reaction. Whether up front, during or after the fact, Mexico won't be paying for any wall. You should know better than to go there, and frankly it's still of no matter because most of us knew then and still today that all that nonsense from Trump about the wall and Mexico paying for it was nothing more than that. Nonsense to get Trump's base lathered up as always quite "easily" done.

You also tend to misrepresent the argument of those not so pro-wall. Maybe if you were more inclined to consider ALL the pros/cons in a balanced manner, you would at least better understand opinion that is not entirely yours. Of course walls do pose a barrier of entry. Wasn't just symbolic after all when Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" Not to dumb this down any further, but "duh!"

Now I could better define the pros and cons that better represent opinion on both sides of this wall (pun intended), but really you should do that for yourself. Rather than going on about how everyone else is ill informed, maybe you should get the argument right to begin with, ALL considered!

PS: You are right by the way about the 700 miles approved in 2006, of how many miles that separate Mexico and the United States?
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Nothing will happen.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Nothing will happen.

Enjoy your fantasy.
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