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Old 11-16-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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It has taken Mueller almost two years and he hasn't found anything either...his investigation of Russian collusion has veered off from Trump into looking for a crime on people... and even those that have been indicted are thin.

Meanwhile Hillary and the DNC who did collude with the Russian with the fake Steel dossier walk away scott free.

It didn't really take Bob Woodward to let most normal people know that there was no Trump/Russian collusion.

IMO the wrong parties were/are being investigated.
Things might change soon enough after the exculpatory evidence of George P's innocence is finally released and the testimony by Mifsud letting everyone know that he's not a Russian agent and is a Western Intelligence asset who was used to entrap George P for the sole purpose of cooking up phony collusion charges.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I respect Woodward, and I'm glad that the trump supporters consider him an honest reporter.

Most of his book also shows Trump is a loon (paraphrasing for brevity).
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Collusion is questionable at this point. There's absolutely no doubt of the following:


1.) Russia put a lot of effort into influencing the 2016 election
2.) Trump has apologized profusely for them, saying "The US is not so great, either", and gone completely soft in the face of an adversary. Yet he's still the far right's golden boy.




Imagine Russia shot missiles at a close ally of ours in the 1990s and Bill Clinton then immediately went to Russia to have a meeting with their leader and hold a joint press conference saying the USA was guilty too. It would be disgusting. Trump somehow got a pass, just like he gets a pass on everything.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Collusion is questionable at this point. There's absolutely no doubt of the following:

1.) Russia put a lot of effort into influencing the 2016 election
2.) Trump has apologized profusely for them, saying "The US is not so great, either", and gone completely soft in the face of an adversary. Yet he's still the far right's golden boy.

Imagine Russia shot missiles at a close ally of ours in the 1990s and Bill Clinton then immediately went to Russia to have a meeting with their leader and hold a joint press conference saying the USA was guilty too. It would be disgusting. Trump somehow got a pass, just like he gets a pass on everything.
Where do you come up with this stuff?

1. Russia, it was reported, opened an account on facebook...not much effort there as any numbskill can do facebook. And most in my opinion are numbskill who open a facebook account and expose their private lives to the world.

2. I think you got Trump confused with Andrew Cuomo who made the 'America was never great' comment ...did you miss that. And it was Obama who made a world tour apologizing to world leaders with the praise of the MSM and fellow democrats.

No I couldn't image Clinton doing that as he was to busy sexual assaulting women. So who got the pass?
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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No, Russia did NOT just open a FB account.

That's just so wrong, it makes discussion pointless.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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Some of what they did:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...ection-n848746
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave at what the Republican Party has become.

The drunk Senator from Wisconsin is however likely thrilled with the efficacy of fear-mongering among the faithful.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Bob Woodward also said that there was no Bush/Cheney lie about WMD. (He wrote a book about the Iraq war called Bush at War).

It doesn't matter. Those whose beliefs are solely a function of partisanship will just go into denial, and believe what they want to believe.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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He reports on what he finds, he does not declare that allegations are false.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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wow, powerful stuff there that only a true idiot lemming would fall for. The CIA should learn from this and pick up some pointers of how to throw an election in a foreign country.
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