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Old 11-27-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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No, for the simple reason that the socioeconomic gap between races will not close in 20 years. There are proportionately more poor blacks and Hispanics than whites or people of Asian ancestry, and poor people generally don't have the same educational assistance -- particularly in the home (again, usually) but often in their formal schooling, also.

Until THAT gap is closed (which might not be in the foreseeable future, if at all), there WILL be differences in how racial groups as a whole perform on tests, unless the tests are completely "dumbed down", as other posters have suggested they might be.
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Nothing will overcome concerned parents with money to burn using tutors. It will just include more evenly distrbuted black and brown parents.
I went to a school with a lot of asian students in southern California.


a lot of high-achieving Asian students are first generation immigrants. Their parents came to the US as war refugees, speak no english, and working in low paying jobs in nail salons, factory, and restaurant business. Do you think they have a lot of money to burn for extra tutoring?


Those asian parents don't have money for tutors, but they have a belt or stick to beat their kids if their kids don't get A+ in school. LoL
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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The only way to do that is to make them all equally dumb which seems to be their goal anyway.
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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What an absurd notion.
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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What an absurd notion.
But it came from a highly respected Superintendent of Schools and no one laughed at him when he said it.
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Old 11-27-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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But it came from a highly respected Superintendent of Schools and no one laughed at him when he said it.
Who is going to laugh at a highly respected Superintendent of Schools? They may have laughed once they got home.

People in elevated positions predict what they think is going to happen in the future all the time. That doesn't mean they're going to be right.

To say everyone is going to be at the same level takes every factor out of the equation. We're not all at the same intelligence level. Some families value education while other families do not. Living in poverty can impact one's ability to learn. Schools tend to come up with canned lessons that are suited to the majority of the class because they don't have time to tailor lessons for those who learn differently. And some schools are just below standards.

If everyone is going to be at the same level, it assumes these other factors will disappear - a statement not even made and an impossibility.
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Old 11-27-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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Sure. After a curve for darker skinned students in implemented by liberals.
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Old 11-27-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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But it came from a highly respected Superintendent of Schools and no one laughed at him when he said it.
You got to tell us what his name is.

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Old 11-27-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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Yes. Test questions will be simplified such that everyone will be able to answer them, even mentally challenged so as to close gap on differences.
Various states/localities have dumbed down teacher certification tests in the name of social justice as not all divisions of people passed at the same rates.

Who needs basic skills like a certain level of literacy? It is only education after all. Dumb it down, get more diversity in the teacher ranks instead of competency, which is wonderful and the students will make up any slack on their own.
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Old 11-27-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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I attended an event where the superintendent of schools spoke to the community. He was talking about the differences between various ethnic groups in academic test results. He told the audience that he firmly believed that in 20 years that there would be no difference in academic performance and test scores between Black, White, Asian and Hispanic students. Then someone asked if there would any difference in test scores between rich and poor students. He doubled down and said that in twenty years that gap would be eliminated too.

Everyone clapped and looked so proud of themselves for being in a society where this could happen.

Do YOU think there will be a time in your life where all races and income levels will be equal in academic performance?
Well as a former teacher and current substitute teacher it looks like this might be true since this is the direction we are going.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIjoE27F-Q
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