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Old 01-13-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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It's not even physically possible to build a great wall across the southern border.
Trump isn't planning to build a wall across every inch of the border. He has also made it clear the wall is only one component of border security and that increasing the number of border agents and adding more tech (sensors, cameras, drones) is crucial.

 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Nothing about the wall makes any common sense. It's not even physically possible to build a great wall across the southern border. It would just be a massive waste of money and effort that wouldn't curb illegal immigration.

If Trump doesn't go after employers, we will never stop the flow of illegal immigrants. Immigration enforcement needs to focus their energy on going after the Americans that make illegal immigration possible. There's a whole industry that thrives off of exploiting cheap illegal immigrant labor.

They know this, but they refuse to do anything about it.
But Individual 1’s entire family is neck deep in that industry, so he doesn’t really want to do anything about it. I-1 just wants a big shiny wall with his name emblazoned.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Tritone View Post
Nothing about the wall makes any common sense. It's not even physically possible to build a great wall across the southern border. It would just be a massive waste of money and effort that wouldn't curb illegal immigration.

If Trump doesn't go after employers, we will never stop the flow of illegal immigrants. Immigration enforcement needs to focus their energy on going after the Americans that make illegal immigration possible. There's a whole industry that thrives off of exploiting cheap illegal immigrant labor.

They know this, but they refuse to do anything about it.
Common sense? lmao These folks voted for and support a grifter that would have happily ripped them off at his bogus university if he was given the opportunity.

And btw OP...we really needed another wall thread...NOT!
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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We've already built hundreds of miles of wall across our Southern border over the years, was that also physically impossible? Was it built by unicorns using magic? Our border patrol agents continue to ask for a wall and believe that it is worth the money and then some, shouldn't we believe the people who are actually doing the job?
Maybe "impossible" is a bad word. It's impractical to do such a thing. It's nearly impossible to make the southern border completely water tight. They would never get it done.

The point that I am making is that that would not achieve anything. It wouldn't stop the problem as long as businesses are thriving off of cheap illegal labor. They are the culprits for this whole problem.

People are forgetting about the fact that it's illegal to hire an illegal immigrant. That's a worse crime to me. Point fingers at the employers. Go after them. Trump is never going to get anything done if he's focused on building walls and running after millions of foreign nationals.

It's the obvious solution that they are IGNORING.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Maybe "impossible" is a bad word. It's impractical to do such a thing. It's nearly impossible to make the southern border completely water tight. They would never get it done.
That isn't the plan, I'm glad we all agree.

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The point that I am making is that that would not achieve anything. It wouldn't stop the problem as long as businesses are thriving off of cheap illegal labor. They are the culprits for this whole problem.

People are forgetting about the fact that it's illegal to hire an illegal immigrant. That's a worse crime to me. Point fingers at the employers. Go after them. Trump is never going to get anything done if he's focused on building walls and running after millions of foreign nationals.

It's the obvious solution that they are IGNORING.
US Border patrol agents disagree with you 100% and everyone coming across the border illegally aren't coming here for a job so stopping employment is only part of the answer. We also need to prevent drugs, criminals, mothers looking to birth anchor babies and everyone else that's flooding our border.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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That isn't the plan, I'm glad we all agree.



US Border patrol agents disagree with you 100% and everyone coming across the border illegally aren't coming here for a job so stopping employment is only part of the answer. We also need to prevent drugs, criminals, mothers looking to birth anchor babies and everyone else that's flooding our border.
Does that go for Russkie oligarch anchor babies and the Russkie mafia as well?
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Florida
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jul...cted-president

In the fourth paragraph, Castro, who is going to be running for the presidency in 2020 clearly states Trump's policy " is not stopping immigrants from coming into the country."

Seems clear to me, in order to stop the flow, a barrier should be in place.
That is just common sense.
Do whatever else is necessary to stop the flow, but BUILD THE BARRIER FIRST !!!

Bob
You did not read the article, did you? I don't think you would have posted such a misleading thread if you had.

This is the basic problem in 'compromise.' The disagreements are too great.

Immigration reform is not a Wall. To take someone's words and spin them is Fake News.

"...Castro, a Mexican-American politician who previously served five terms as the mayor of San Antonio, countered that as president he would "make sure that we invest in sensible, smart and effective border security that includes personnel, that includes the smart use of technology and that does not scapegoat these immigrants but tries to look for a way that we can get to comprehensive immigration reform to fix our broken immigration system."...
 
Old 01-13-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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Here you can read the missing bullet point that the liberal media omits from the Common Sense Caucus plan.



https://www.vox.com/2018/2/15/170159...an-senate-daca


  • Tells ICE not to focus on unauthorized immigrants living in the US without criminal records. The bill would codify “enforcement priorities” for the Department of Homeland Security (including Immigration and Customs Enforcement). It would tell agents to focus on immigrants convicted of felonies, and those who enter the US after January 1, 2018. This would be the first time since the establishment of ICE as an independent agency in 2003 that a law would dictate whom agents should focus on, and would put much stricter restrictions on ICE than the ones agents chafed under during the Obama administration (and which Trump famously removed while in office). It wouldn’t prohibit ICE from deporting unauthorized immigrants without criminal records who’ve lived in the US for a while, but it would, at least in theory, push those immigrants way down on the enforcement agenda.

This is such utter BS! All illegal aliens should be deported as they are found according to our immigration laws. Just because one has managed to evade the law for years and haven't been caught committing a crime yet is not reason to give them a pass on our immigration laws. Nearly all of them have committed felony ID theft or tax evasion in order to work. Obama is the one who implemented the above. He also discontinued to work place raids. It's no wonder that illegal aliens aren't worried about entering our country illegally and/or being deported.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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US Border patrol agents disagree with you 100% and everyone coming across the border illegally aren't coming here for a job so stopping employment is only part of the answer. We also need to prevent drugs, criminals, mothers looking to birth anchor babies and everyone else that's flooding our border.
The vast majority of people who scam their way into the United States come here to get legitimate jobs. If we cracked down on employers, they would not be able to do that, and illegal immigration would slow to a trickle. There would be a mass exodus of illegal aliens if the threat to employers was real. Mothers wouldn't even come here to give birth if we made it impossible for them to find work.

Drug trafficking is actually a different issue, that's small part of the problem we have. Building a wall just to stop that won't change much.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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If the wall is so important and such an emergency, why did the republicans not fund the wall over the last two years when they controlled the entire federal gov't?

But 45 days after the GOP loses the House, they suddnely want to shut down the gov't over the wall? Why didn't they shut it down the two years before when repubs controlled Congress entirely?
Cause they are lazy. Cause it doesn't affect then. Cause it gives them the usual route to blame Democrats for their lazy disintetest in protecting America.
Goodness sake they don't even care that their leader is a spy.
Losers.
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