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Old 01-13-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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No doubt, they could have their 7 and 8 year old push the cart, with wheels, for who knows how many miles, then the parent can climb the wall with this contraption on his/her back, then they can install this at the top of the wall....and all this can be done without the a generator....but maybe it was the 5 year old that was pushing the generator...

Another thing Jim Acosta apparently didn't see on his visit to see a big steel-slat wall was ladders, tunnels, blowtorches, or other such wall-defeating contraptions.

 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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The wall must be the first "infrastructure" program in the history of the federal government that the laughably hypocritical Democrats have opposed.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The wall must be the first "infrastructure" program in the history of the federal government that the laughably hypocritical Democrats have opposed.
A wall is not an 'infrastructure program', it's a campaign promise nothing more, nothing less.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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The difference is in the burden to bear. If the funding is staged, then Congress must take affirmative action to continue funding. If the funding is upfront, then Congress must take affirmative action to retract funding. Affirmative action is subject to filibuster and requires 60 votes. So if you have 55 votes, you cannot ensure staged funding is continued nor can you ensure pre-funded is pulled back. And even then it is subject to a veto. The default status is the current status.It is harder to change a law than to let it continue as is.
Is this something we know or are surmising? I fully admit that I don't begin to grasp the complex workings of Congress ... but Congress can attach all sorts of strings to legislation. Why would we assume that they expire absent new legislation. Unless you have a credible link that applies to this particular bill (since it is so profoundly complicated) for myself I'll leave this as a ???
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Another thing Jim Acosta apparently didn't see on his visit to see a big steel-slat wall was ladders, tunnels, blowtorches, or other such wall-defeating contraptions.
Did he see any of those unbelievable vehicles trump claims they have?



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...The fact is if we don't have barriers, walls, call them what you will, very strong barriers where people can not any longer drive right across. They have unbelievable vehicles. They make a lot of money. They have the best vehicles you can buy. They have stronger, bigger and faster vehicles than our police have and that ICE have and that Border Patrol have. They're pretty good at that. They have areas they go to. It's like a highway.
The President* Seems to Think Mad Max Is a Documentary About the Border
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Ok. Walls don't work. The reason there was a drop (Thank you President OBAMA) is because of better technology and better enforcement on the ground. Yes, the wall does do a little to deter, but not the 50%, or 71% we are seeing.


The yuge amount of money a wall (or fence, or barricade, or structure, or...…….) would cost could be used in so many better ways to protect our border. You guys think it is just so easy, simply erect this big old wall all along our border. However, you forget what the terrain is like there, the fact that citizens own a lot of that property, and it would take years to use something like eminent domain to acquire the right to use that land.


I can guarantee you that, if that wall magically was erected tomorrow, by Monday the people who wanted in would have figured out a way to come under, over, or through it. Anything one man builds, another man can defeat.
How many videos does the right have to see where they have tunnels all over the damn place?? Do they not watch the videos or do they just choose to ingore them?
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This couldn't get any weirder than if it were a comedy movie about a bat-crap crazy man as president!

Freewheeling Trump claims the wall is needed to stop migrants in 'unbelievable, stronger, bigger and faster vehicles' DRIVING across the border and outrunning ICE agents
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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... is the argument that tunnels; which are a lot of trouble to dig, and provide very limited and temporary illegal access, are a good reason to have a wide open border with no barrier at all. Why is this stupid argument still made?
Maybe because it’s a fact you all choose to ingore. It doesn’t matter how limited they are still coming in. It’s just a matter of time before they think of another way in. Like I posted months ago if you want something bad enough you’ll find a way, though, around, over it or under it.

 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Between ~2007 and 2011 we built ~700 miles of border wall (or fence if you prefer). In that timeframe apprehensions for illegal immigration across the southern border dropped by over 50%. Tell me again how walls don't work.
The recession of 2008 reduced illegal immigration.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Trump watched a video of why his wall won’t work. Not that he cares if it does or not it will make his base happy. That’s really all this is about. Trump needs a win and will do whatever it takes to get one.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ta-pkg-vpx.cnn
After knocking on the door and no one will let you in, you are going to bust a window and climb in. Once in, government says I must call you family.


There is a reason I'm armed, and if anyone climbs in a window, they will be leaving in a bodybag.
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