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Here are the facts on our "southern border crisis". What the chart shows is that Bush and Obama did a fantastic job of protecting our Southern border in the years since 9/11. Not only was there NOT a crisis - we were doing a damned good job of improving the situation. A smart President would have learned about why that worked - and crafted his policy around the lessons learned.
On the second point, the fact that we've allocated funds in this recent compromise to create 55 miles of wall in critical areas is perfect. 55 miles out of 1954 miles is 2.8% of the length of the border. I'll go for that.
Done. Let's give Trump his pathetic compromise to soothe his ego, and let's move on.
Why are you once again bringing up a wall for the entire border when I have already told you numerous times it's no longer the plan and hasn't been for some time now? 55 new miles of barrier isn't enough and a Border Patrol spokesman said so this morning on TV. Why do you keep making lame remarks about this being about Trump's ego? That's just plain ignorance! This is about our border security, nothing more and nothing less.
We have had a crisis on our border for decades it's just accelerated with all these caravans coming here now. We still have 30,000 trying to cross our border illegally every single month for God's sake!
Trump learned what works from the boots on the ground why can't you anti-wall people learn from them yourselves? Oh that's right, your agenda doesn't allow for the facts.
Congress was supposed to erect double barriers on 700 miles of the most porous areas of our border back in 2006 BUT DID NOT! What was built was inferior fencing and that needs to be corrected. Why do you have a problem with that?
- Trump never said Mexico would pay for it.
- OK, he said it, but it was just campaign talk.
- I mean, technically, they are paying for it through trade agreements.
- Oh, like Obama was such a good dealmaker?
- Leftists don't give Trump credit for anything, but he's delivered on every promise!
“One thing that I do have to say is: Tremendous amounts of wall have already been built, and a lot of — a lot of wall. When you include the renovation of existing fences and walls, we've renovated a tremendous amount and we've done a lot of work.”
He also said on Twitter, “Much of the wall has already been renovated and built”
Suckers.
Nope! Most of it from 2006 was mere fencing not walls. Some of it may have been improved over the years but we still have a long ways to go. Here educate yourself.
Nope! Most of it from 2006 was mere fencing not walls. Some of it may have been improved over the years but we still have a long ways to go. Here educate yourself.
Right -- take a few pictures of a wall segment and just tell them that it is a done deal. They will never know.
A fence is better than a wall, anyway. People will tunnel under both but a fence is cheaper. Only a moron would want to spend that kind of money on an ineffective wall.
Trump people brag on the wall in Israel. When the Israelis built their wall the Palestinians stole sections of it for scrap metal and made weapons.
Nope! The good physical barriers aka walls have not been tunneled under nor scaled over successfully only the inferior fencing has. So I guess the Border Patrol are morons when they have stated that the good barriers are very effective? I've even posted links proving that they are but you know better, right?
Nope! Most of it from 2006 was mere fencing not walls. Some of it may have been improved over the years but we still have a long ways to go. Here educate yourself.
So you've moved the goalposts? You originally insisted that Trump never said the wall was being built. Now that you've been confronted with direct evidence that Trump said the wall was being built, you've changed gears and are now arguing that it wasn't actually a wall.
In either scenario, Trump looks stupid for screwing up the details on his signature campaign promise, and you look bad for falsely accusing another poster of lying.
The uninformed posters in this thread illustrate the censorship of the media. A feeble fence? A cement wall? That is yesterday's news. Try to keep up!
This is what they are building. Do you Loony Leftists not believe your God Accosted who went to the border and stood next to the steel slat barrier and said there were no illegals? Was he lying? If Cartoon News Network cameras had scanned the length of it would they have shown hordes catapaulting over?
In this particular negotiation, Trump wanted 64 miles and would be getting 55 for one section of the border designated as high risk now by border patrol. WeBuildTheWall group might very well build the remaining 9 miles which they could easily afford. And do it quicker for less money than the Feds! Learn more at the recent Town Hall in Tucson.
Besides, didn't Fancy Nancy say Trump would only get ONE DOLLAR from Dems?
Right! Why aren't the anti-wall people in here chastising her and the Dems for allocating over $1 billion for the wall with this latest new deal? They are such hypocrites!
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55 new miles of barrier isn't enough and a Border Patrol spokesman said so this morning on TV. Why do you keep making lame remarks about this being about Trump's ego? That's just plain ignorance! This is about our border security, nothing more and nothing less. 
