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Old 01-24-2019, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by No_Recess View Post
Do you hate freedom so bad that you're willing to side with Trump on this issue?

I know, the only time Team Red and Team Blue get along is when there's an actual principled person around (aka anarchist).

You folks are a hoot.
I don't side with tRump as I'm against the wall. But you just won't admit that property rights cannot exist without police, courts and jails to enforce them. In your utopia, it's the wild west, where you would have to fight people off (most likely with a gun) constantly

 
Old 01-25-2019, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I don't side with tRump as I'm against the wall. But you just won't admit that property rights cannot exist without police, courts and jails to enforce them. In your utopia, it's the wild west, where you would have to fight people off (most likely with a gun) constantly
And you support Trump by supporting the State.

When he sends his goons down there to cage/possibly kill the rightful owners of that land because they don't want to move don't come in here crying "Orange Man bad".
 
Old 01-25-2019, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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And you support Trump by supporting the State.

When he sends his goons down there to cage/possibly kill the rightful owners of that land because they don't want to move don't come in here crying "Orange Man bad".
Why do you keep ignoring my more important point, in that everyone would have to be vigilantes on constant alarm in your stateless utopia?
 
Old 01-25-2019, 12:19 AM
 
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If he used eminent domain, at least the landowners would get financial compensation.
When I was a child, my family lost the lot for our "dream home" to eminent domain by a State University. My dad, despite his best efforts, got a fraction of what the was worth. I have heard many other stories about this, and the land owner never comes out doing well. The government doesn't pay market value in situations like this. People will fight this in court, as well they should, and it will take years of litigation.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 12:26 AM
 
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Ninety-nine year lease for the wall property.

By domain lease - like Panama, or something.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I know it was. And Mexico was going to pay for it. That was a campaign promise too. I guess you don't have a problem with that being a lie.

So what if it was a campaign promise? So was repealing Obamacare and locking Hillary up, neither of which has happened. Can anyone help that he makes idiotic promises he can't keep?
It was a still a campaign promise that he is trying to keep.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Most Americans don't want the wall.
The Leftist media is making damn sure that the population thinks that there is no immigration problem.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 06:05 AM
 
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Default Texas Border Sheriffs: There is No Crisis and We Don’t Want Trump’s Wall

"Hidalgo County Sheriff J.E. “Eddie” Guerra, who is in charge of policing the largest and most populous county in the Rio Grande Valley, said that crime rates in his county are at record lows, and that illegal immigration has very little effect on the safety of residents. Meanwhile, Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson, who is responsible for policing the largest county in Texas, said he doesn’t support the construction of a wall along any part of the 192-mile stretch of border in Brewster County, which includes Big Bend National Park."

https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-...t-trumps-wall/

Incidentally, at least 200 border patrol agents have been furloughed in the Rio Grande Valley, and more than 54,000 Customs and Border Protection employees nationwide are working without pay.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 06:07 AM
 
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He is probably on the cartel pay roll, naturally, there is no crisis for them, drugs are flowing in like clockwork and reaching their destination. Im pretty sure they dont want that to stop or slow down.
 
Old 01-25-2019, 06:09 AM
 
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local sheriffs don't matter, it's what Border Patrol and Homeland Security thinks. They just need to stay in their swim lanes and stay out of immigration matters.
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