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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-14-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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So do you make allowance for people seeking asylum from a dangerous home country???
Vs someone flying in on first class ticket and. Never going home?????

What allowances? Asylum has it's own governing laws and overstays have no more protection from deportations than illegal crossings.
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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A Washington Post poll is hardly trustworthy. Polls also showed Hillary would win. Who cares about Polls?
Trump when they are in his favor--not so much when they aren't...

And anyone claiming the polls were wrong about HRC winning--and then not--
Let's just keep in mind there WAS Russian involvement taining voters' attitudes and perhaps even tainting actual voting numbers...
So I think the polls could have been spot on about HRC winning if the Russians hadn't stuck their fingers in the pie...
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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What allowances? Asylum has it's own governing laws and overstays have no more protection from deportations than illegal crossings.
Exactly--
And most illegals are overstayers
Many, many of the people at the southern border are asylum seekers prevented from that process by Trump/WH actions...
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Trump is down by 12 in Rasmussen today! Things are really bad if that poll, often cited by Trump when it occasionally ticks positive for him, is that far to the negative. Clearly, voters are sick and tired of his shutdown antics.
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Exactly--
And most illegals are overstayers
Many, many of the people at the southern border are asylum seekers prevented from that process by Trump/WH actions...

As he should, only reason so many asylum seekers now is because everyone looking for a better life has learned to ask for asylum as an end run around normal immigration law. They can remain in Mexico where they are safe from persecution and apply legally. If they illegally enter, I think they should be deported it even if they cry asylum. A federal judge has blocked that, we'll see what SCOTUS has to say probably later this year.
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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Absolutely agree with you.

If you are brought here as a kid, and your parents are not citizens, you should be able to apply for citizenship based on a merit system at the age of 18, and be temporarily immuned from deportation if you are enrolled in an American school for more than 3 years. Your parents can only stay till your kid who has otherwise been enrolled in an American school for 3 years, is 18 though. This is justice. Parents don’t get amnesty but get a stay only to provide necessary childcare, then deported. They the parents should get temporarily treated similar to other Americans by agreeing to a court order to leave after their child is 18. Then the deportation they get after the kid is 18 is no shock.

After the parents are deported and have an adult child with US citizenship, in a separate legal process, the parents should be allowed to re-apply for legal immigration and then become legal immigrants if their application is approved. It should be a tedious process which suggests the less painstaking way is to apply for legal immigration from the start.

The parents of the DACAs are not only non-citizens but they are illegal aliens. Why would these DACAs want to stay while their parents are deported? If the DACAs stay then their parents should be exempt from returning here. That's the problem though by giving the DACAs our citizenship then they can sponsor their parents to come back and they are all rewarded for being in our country illegally. The whole family should be deported together then the family won't be separated.


There is a lot of fraud with these DACAs also. I already posted a link about it. We don't need the competition for jobs and resources against Americans. Isn't it bad enough that their parents have done it?
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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As he should, only reason so many asylum seekers now is because everyone looking for a better life has learned to ask for asylum as an end run around normal immigration law. They can remain in Mexico where they are safe from persecution and apply legally. If they illegally enter, I think they should be deported it even if they cry asylum. A federal judge has blocked that, we'll see what SCOTUS has to say probably later this year.

I don't know why these idiots keep deflecting with the visa over stayers either. WTH does that have to do with building a wall to stop the border jumpers who still number in the thousands every month?
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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The parents of the DACAs are not only non-citizens but they are illegal aliens. Why would these DACAs want to stay while their parents are deported? If the DACAs stay then their parents should be exempt from returning here. That's the problem though by giving the DACAs our citizenship then they can sponsor their parents to come back and they are all rewarded for being in our country illegally. The whole family should be deported together then the family won't be separated.

Even the Dem supported Common Sense Caucus removed ability of green card holders to sponsor parents (which reduces family immigration beyond DACA) and the path to citizenship is at least 12 years. No DACA will be sponsoring a parent until 2031 or later.


Think of all the mail-order Filipina brides who then bring her parents over now to enjoy retirement and medicare on your dime.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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Even the Dem supported Common Sense Caucus removed ability of green card holders to sponsor parents (which reduces family immigration beyond DACA) and the path to citizenship is at least 12 years. No DACA will be sponsoring a parent until 2031 or later.


Think of all the mail-order Filipina brides who then bring her parents over now to enjoy retirement and medicare on your dime.

Are any of the above Filapino's here illegally? Is so, then they need to be deported also.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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In general (GENERAL), federal employees and others impacted by the shutdown are not hurting badly at all. This is blatantly obvious. If they WERE hurting badly, then millions of people would be flooding Congress' phone lines or protesting outside their offices. And they would be saying to their Congress critters and senators, "are you freaking kidding me?!?! Give Trump the five billion for what he wants.....that amount is a rounding error in the federal budget!!"
Since that is not happening, we can conclude that almost no one is hurting badly.
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