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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-13-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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Illegals can't vote.

Can't lawfully but still do in some cases. With no voter ID even dead people can vote. This is mostly about the Democrats pandering to the ethnocentric Hispanic citizen voter who want amnesty for their illegal amigos and weak border security so that more of their illegal amigos can enter.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:27 PM
 
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If hypothetically Mexico wrote out a check paying for it, the same people here complaining will still be complaining as they don't want a Trump win - you do know in your heart of hearts that you'll never admit what you wrote is BS only because (this goes for a great majority in this part of the forum) Hillary or Bernie didn't win and you hate Trump. We give billions upon billions each year to countries, but for us = no good to the SJW's, Liberals, Democrats and other Anti-Americans including most of the MSM and also right here in CD political forum land.


Have a great rest of the day!

Not only that but why weren't these same people complaining when congress passed the actual wall bill back in 2006 and it was to soley be the tax payer to pay for it? Hmm.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:28 PM
 
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How many bodies have to pile up from overdoses, human trafficking, and violent crime before Democrats stop playing politics?

Show a fact checked correlation between the current state of border protection, and how Trump's wall would make the difference with your assertions, and we will talk.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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Show a fact checked correlation between the current state of border protection, and how Trump's wall would make the difference with your assertions, and we will talk.

First off it's not Trump's wall. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. It is the wall that congress approved of back in 2006 but did not fund or build the way they had promised. Only 30 miles of the good barriers were built. Much of the rest is flimsy fencing. Now since the good barriers have already proven to be very effective (I have posted numerous links) one can only imagine (that is if you have any common sense) that if the rest of the 700 miles had the same barriers that they would be much more effective than they are now and that's what Trump wants done.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:47 PM
 
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Show a fact checked correlation between the current state of border protection, and how Trump's wall would make the difference with your assertions, and we will talk.



Sorry, this is just an amazingly funny post from an obviously lefty that want's a fact checked link.....


So, do tell...are you also asking the left to provide fact checked links for trump being a spy, a russian agent, and what ever else the left can say?


Be specific, and provide links to your response.


If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, in this tread...and I have apologized before here in CD....


So, it's in your court now....


Of course there are those pesky idiots that actually patrol the border..


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The Bottom Line: Walls Work. When it comes to stopping drugs and illegal aliens from crossing our borders, border walls have proven to be extremely effective. Border security relies on a combination of border infrastructure, technology, personnel and partnerships with law enforcement at the state, local, tribal, and federal level. For example, when we installed a border wall in the Yuma Sector, we have seen border apprehensions decrease by 90 percent. In San Diego, we saw on Sunday that dilapidated, decades-old barriers are not sufficient for today’s threat and need to be removed so new – up to 30 foot wall sections can be completed.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:47 PM
 
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First off it's not Trump's wall. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. It is the wall that congress approved of back in 2006 but did not fund or build the way they had promised. Only 30 miles of the good barriers were built. Much of the rest is flimsy fencing. Now since the good barriers have already proven to be very effective (I have posted numerous links) one can only imagine (that is if you have any common sense) that if the rest of the 700 miles had the same barriers that they would be much more effective than they are now and that's what Trump wants done.
So no cogent answer to my post to RowingFiend. Carry on.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Sorry, this is just an amazingly funny post from an obviously lefty that want's a fact checked link.....


So, do tell...are you also asking the left to provide fact checked links for trump being a spy, a russian agent, and what ever else the left can say?


Be specific, and provide links to your response.


If I'm wrong, I'll apologize, in this tread...and I have apologized before here in CD....


So, it's in your court now....


Of course there are those pesky idiots that actually patrol the border..


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
So no cogent answer to my post to RowingFiend. Carry on.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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I don't buy the 2nd paragraph for a second because dems have become radically left starting with the Obama presidency so the same with any other "R" president for whatever different reasons IMO.
Well, I can't speak for everybody, but I sure wouldn't have been as involved as I am now had even somebody like Ted Cruz been elected, god help us.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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Trump is willing to make a deal, even DACA if the SCJ's vote the right way.



As a taxpayer I don't care how much OUR security costs no matter who is the POTUS (for all of us friend) - it's a logical no-brainer like why we all have locks on our doors, etc.., IMO. We send billions upon billions to help other countries, plus the wall will pay for itself over and over again because of how much illegal immigration costs us per year which is monumental in comparison.
Then why didn't he agree to it when he had the chance? He doesn't want to talk about DACA now. I agree that billions and billions are spent in places they shouldn't be. But Trump's trophy wall isn't the best way to spend this money, IMO. And in lots of other peoples' opinions, according to the polls.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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Let the deal maker practice his art of the deal with Mexico to get them to pay for the wall.





Already explained it.
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