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If they get outside work they get subjected to an OPM investigation because believe it or not, federal employees can be compromised when they accept outside employment, as the new employer has an upper hand which could subject the federal employee to coercion, bribes, etc, which is not something the federal government wants.
Yes these federal workers come across as very entitled to me and completely out of touch with the real world. I've lived in communities where coal mines and steel mills have shut down permanently, or been closed for extended periods of time. These workers and their families just have to deal with it and they DON'T get back pay even though its also due to things beyond their control whether market forces or government policies like the war on coal and unfair trade agreements.
Even here in Louisiana where manufacturing is generally thriving, Georgia Pacific is laying off 450 workers at a paper mill that they've run for decades because there's less demand for printer paper these days and that section of the plant is being closed.
I honestly think that the non essential workers who stayed home should NOT be paid. Paying the non-essential workers would also be unfair to the essential ones.
You are utterly clueless and clearly have no interest in maintaining the integrity of the federal government.
You are utterly clueless and clearly have no interest in maintaining the integrity of the federal government.
In many regards I trust our local authorities and even state more than I trust the feds. Think about how despite the liberal media's support for centralized control and their message that everything local requires federal oversight, remember how the FBI and ATF committed that massacre in Waco killing over 50 children, worse than anything the Ferguson PD was accused of (and all the BLM claims turned out to be false). The feds have never been our friend. They're also the ones forcing Obamacare and abortion on us, trying to restrict our gun rights, harming our economy with government overregulation.
The liberal belief is centered on the assumption that government is benign hence their support for massive government control. Globally a private company has never done what Stalin or Hitler did.
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In many regards I trust our local authorities and even state more than I trust the feds. Think about how despite the liberal media's support for centralized control and their message that everything local requires federal oversight, remember how the FBI and ATF committed that massacre in Waco killing over 50 children, worse than anything the Ferguson PD was accused of (and all the BLM claims turned out to be false). The feds have never been our friend. They're also the ones forcing Obamacare and abortion on us, trying to restrict our gun rights, harming our economy with government overregulation.
The liberal belief is centered on the assumption that government is benign hence their support for massive government control. Globally a private company has never done what Stalin or Hitler did.
Who's forcing abortion on anybody? Democrats are trying to leave open the choice of abortion or not. It's Republicans who don't even want the choice to be available.....
Who's forcing abortion on anybody? Democrats are trying to leave open the choice of abortion or not. It's Republicans who don't even want the choice to be available.....
In many regards I trust our local authorities and even state more than I trust the feds. Think about how despite the liberal media's support for centralized control and their message that everything local requires federal oversight, remember how the FBI and ATF committed that massacre in Waco killing over 50 children, worse than anything the Ferguson PD was accused of (and all the BLM claims turned out to be false). The feds have never been our friend. They're also the ones forcing Obamacare and abortion on us, trying to restrict our gun rights, harming our economy with government overregulation.
The liberal belief is centered on the assumption that government is benign hence their support for massive government control. Globally a private company has never done what Stalin or Hitler did.
None of this has anything to do with whether furloughed employees deserve to be paid. Put yourself in their shoes. And keep in mind many furloughed employees did vote for Trump. Should they be asked to lose their home/livelihood, or alternatively, risk their job, because of an egotistical (on one side) power struggle? The Sword of Damocles for this shutdown will not fall upon the Democrats, it will fall upon our President. And this hardship will not be forgotten.
Need some explanation here. For those who didn’t work, why should they be paid?
Before you argue it’s not their fault, it’s not the taxpayers’ fault either. In the private sector, if a company shuts down due to slow sales, nobody would be paid.
Since they will get the pay back for not doing any work, that’s like paid vacation! Frankly, all the whining from the federal employees is only because they have no savings when they know government shutdowns are not rare events.
Let's pretend that you think these people are doing jobs worth doing and required.
How much would it cost taxpayers to train new hires if those who were told not to come in decided to find other work instead of hoping to get back to work? I imagine it would be more that a couple months pay.
Let's pretend that you think these people are doing jobs worth doing and required.
How much would it cost taxpayers to train new hires if those who were told not to come in decided to find other work instead of hoping to get back to work? I imagine it would be more that a couple months pay.
Yeah, it’s super expensive to train new federal employees, almost across the board with federal agencies. Not to mention the fact that 30% of federal employees are veterans. Are you republicans repudiating veterans, and the work they are doing in the federal government? Or are they just pawns as far as you and the President are concerned?
If I was an essential worker, then I would feel it would be unfair to me if the unessential ones who stayed home were also paid.
But free money is at the heart of the liberals wet dream. Until they run out of other people's money.
Again, what do you expect the furloughed employees to do? I already explained to you that “just getting another temp job” is problematic and triggers an otherwise unnecessary background investigation (which, by the way, requires you, the taxpayer, to pay for). You are both inconsiderate and naive with those comments.
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