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The Feds are not doing the work, not because they don’t want to, but because they are being told not to. In the meantime, the work just keeps piling up in their absence. When they get back, they will have to clear the backlog, as well as handle the normal daily workload. So yeah, they deserve their back pay. And you are going to pay them OP.
My daughter just got offered a short term well paying job in her field. She isn’t legally allowed to take it because one of the criteria of her contract as a government employee is that she cannot do any side work in her field. She can’t even take a part time job without her supervisors approval which she cannot get. She can’t even just quit without consequences due to her security clearances which are admittedly pretty low. It’s likely much worse for those with serious clearances.
None of that would happen to a private sector employee. If you are expected to go weeks without pay you are free to get new employment without facing legal action.
Fair enough. They should at least be able to quit and/or find other jobs then.
How does this apply? The workers didn’t do the work in this case.
do you cherry pick your argument?
You want the furloughed (non-essential) employees to not get back pay because they are not working. Your argument is that is how we do it in private sector. OK, cool.
What about the essential employees who are working without pay? I'm pretty sure that is not how we do it in private sector. It's 100% illegal in private sector.
You want the furloughed (non-essential) employees to not get back pay because they are not working. Your argument is that is how we do it in private sector.
What about the essential employees who are working without pay? I'm pretty sure that is not how we do it in private sector. It's 100% illegal in private sector.
I have no beef against those who must work without pay. They have all my sympathy. I appreciate they work through this fiasco and I blame both parties for using them as a pawn.
However, that’s not what my topic is about. I am asking for the moral justification for those who DON’T work but will be paid.
The Feds are not doing the work, not because they don’t want to, but because they are being told not to. In the meantime, the work just keeps piling up in their absence. When they get back, they will have to clear the backlog, as well as handle the normal daily workload. So yeah, they deserve their back pay. And you are going to pay them OP.
LOL. Every worker being laid off deserves their pay back then.
Please explain how your inability or unwillingness to plan and save is a concern for anybody but you and your family?
I was suggesting that no work, no pay.
If you read my post, my husband was unemployed for a year. We used our savings to pay for bills. Now he is employed, making half of what he did before.
I have no beef against those who must work without pay. They have all my sympathy. I appreciate they work through this fiasco and I blame both parties for using them as a pawn.
However, that’s not what my topic is about. I am asking for the moral justification for those who DON’T work but will be paid.
Your sympathy doesn't pay for their rent, mortgage, and food to feed their family.
If it's moral to not pay essential employees for working without pay, then it's also moral to pay furloughed (non-essential) employees for not working.
Your sympathy doesn't pay for their rent, mortgage, and food to feed their family.
If it's moral to not pay essential employees for working without pay, then it's also moral to pay furloughed (non-essential) employees for not working.
Be consistent with your view/argument.
Neither is moral; however, one wrong doesn’t make another wrong right.
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