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Old 04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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I must say though that Tasers are becoming popular as an alternative to a firearm

TASER - Consumers Home (http://www.taser.com/Pages/consumer.aspx - broken link)
Sorry, not allowed to have one in New Jersey! I'm at the mercy of criminals here.

 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I think it's pretty silly to think that the average citizen needs a gun for self protection.
I thank goodness that your thoughts don't translate into law. Perhaps someday you'll face a situation that will change your mind. I hope not, but one never knows for sure - that's why I carry concealed.

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Suicides by firearm : American Association of Suicidology - Dedicated to the Understanding and Prevention of Suicide (http://www.suicidology.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=21 - broken link)

Murders: Table 1 - Crime in the United States 2006 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_01.html - broken link)

Accidents: Accidental Death -- Do You Know the Risks?
As I said in a more recent post, you were citing a national statistic in response to my post about a local statistic. I used the word "county" twice, in two different posts, and you cited national statistics twice, in response to those two posts.

So where are the 30k gun deaths in Clark County?
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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I must say though that Tasers are becoming popular as an alternative to a firearm

TASER - Consumers Home (http://www.taser.com/Pages/consumer.aspx - broken link)
I'd rather have a firearm.

You can make sure they remember what happened the day they messed with you. They'll see that gunshot wound.
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
And you should be able to protect yourself WITHOUT a gun...

End of story.
Let me turn this around.Let's say a person is a black belt and murders someone with this knowledge.They go to jail but will society blame martial arts as the cause of this murder?no they will blame the person.


Do you think society will call for a ban on martial arts because someone used it wrongly?Do you think that banning it would cause someone to possibly not defend themself?

And what's the difference between someone using martial arts,knife or firearm correctly or not correctly?And why determine what choice they should have to any of them?
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Yet - many still own handguns in the District.
Wow, like all the criminals! Someone should tell them it's against the law...
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:58 AM
 
Location: ARK-KIN-SAW
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So you generally walk around waving a gun around?
no, 99.5 % of the people i know have no idea I even own a gun, but I know how to get to it fast if someone breaks into my home, I have every right to protect my family, and if stopping someone from harming them includes myself not making it so be it.

the only time i wave a gun around is during hunting season in AR..
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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It doesn't take strength to defend yourself. You can break bones without having to apply large amounts of force. Trust me, I've done it.
Here we go again...
 
Old 04-09-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Take it from him. You certainly can do that if you think you're going to be able to draw and fire your OWN weapon before being shot.
well maybe you are a Billy badass that can do that but there are occassions when even you won't dodge a bullet.

You may have a black belt but I have one belt higher than you........a gun belt.
 
Old 04-09-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Let's stop with the 30,000 a year; over half of those are people who wanted to kill THEMSELF; there are only about 12,500 homicides per year from guns. .
What part of "suicides are deaths" is difficult for you to understand? States with tight gun control laws have much lower suicide rates.

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You choose to ignore all statistics that states and areas with concealed carry have less crime...that in countries without guns for citizens the home burglary rate while the owner is home are about 50% compared to the USA's rate of about 12%. Criminals are less likely to attempt a crime against someone if they feel that person may be armed.
Data please.
 
Old 04-09-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Foothills of Colorado
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It doesn't take strength to defend yourself. You can break bones without having to apply large amounts of force. Trust me, I've done it.
Then why with all of the outcry in today's society for equal rights for women do we not see women fighting men in the very lucrative ultimate fighting industry? Could it be that strength is a very important component of self defense? Or do you think we are all just a bunch of sexists.
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