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Old 01-30-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
It is responsibility. Abortions are not cheap or painless. They are not convenient. They are not easy.

People have sex. If you want women to stop having sex except when they want to get a child, who are men going to have sex with? Each other? People have sex. We are all (or most of us) born with a sex drive. We naturally seek to have sex, and we naturally enjoy sex. That's the real world. And there is no reason that women should be punished for that.




Having a baby is not being "punished" for having sex.

It is a natural consequence.

But a baby being aborted is being punished for your irresponsibility.

 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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Congratulations.



That's not "personal responsibility".
Nah, you're wrong.
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:14 AM
 
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Nah, you're wrong.


Hey......

Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:14 AM
 
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And an Immoral one.

And we keep coming closer to the day that we will all find out which way was right.

Which day is that because I have a hair appointment coming up that I don't want to have to reschedule.
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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Having a baby is not being "punished" for having sex.

It is a natural consequence.

But a baby being aborted is being punished for your irresponsibility.

A natural consequence that has negative effects. Essentially a punishment. Why not get rid of it?
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Your first line has got my attention right there:

Moral.

Basically speaking now, how can a truly Moral person have an Abortion?

If she got pregnant, and wants an Abortion, something went wrong somewhere.

And instead of the person acting responsible in the situation that she is in, the Baby has to pay for it ??

Basically speaking, because a fertilized egg is not another person. It's a fertilized egg. And most fertilized eggs never make it to becoming a human being. Nature gets rid of most fertilized eggs. The fertilized egg never attaches to the uterus, or it attaches, but that attachment doesn't stick. The egg attaches, but there is something wrong with it, and a miscarriage occurs. Most fertilized eggs never make it to becoming a human being.

The majority of women who decide for an abortion are already mothers. They know what the consequences and risks are. They know how expensive a pregnancy can be, never mind how expensive raising a child can be. They know about their own medical histories. They know that pregnancy is actually dangerous, that women die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth. They know that they generally can't take their newborn to work with them, and how difficult it is to find good, affordable daycare. They know that they can't afford to not work for the next year or two. They know because they've been down this road before.

It is moral to consider these things, and it is moral to consider how an unwanted pregnancy and another child is going to impact your life and the lives of your family. A fertilized egg isn't a baby. A fetus isn't a baby. And a woman that is intelligent, moral and responsible is entitled to consider the future of herself and her family.

If you want to reduce abortions, then you need to think about what the woman who is considering an abortion is thinking about. You need to support medical research that makes pregnancy safer and easier. You need to support taxes that will go to making pre-natal care and treatment much, much, much more affordable. You need to work on lowering the costs of daycare, and lowering the costs of taking a child to the doctor. You need to think about the things that women have to think about, because we need to live in a world where abortion isn't the better option. Unfortunately, we don't live in that world right now. And it's not women who are immoral, but society that is immoral.
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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Which day is that because I have a hair appointment coming up that I don't want to have to reschedule.
No one knows.

It will be like a "Thief in the Night".

But anyway, good debating with you, but I need to get back to work now.
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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Your first line has got my attention right there:

Moral.

Basically speaking now, how can a truly Moral person have an Abortion?

If she got pregnant, and wants an Abortion, something went wrong somewhere.

And instead of the person acting responsible in the situation that she is in, the Baby has to pay for it ??
Just out of curiosity, do you think people who are agnostic or are atheists are immoral, and if so they are inherently immoral because of their agnosticism or atheism?
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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Modern medicine is an amazing thing.


Doctors can tell if a fetus is viable long before the woman is ready to give birth.


There is no reason to support abortion until birth.

Even the Libertarian stance that I take on abortion doesn't excuse or allow for this absolutely horrific policy.
Abortion of a non-viable fetus?????????

You do understand what non-viable means?
 
Old 01-30-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Again, it's not necessary to wait until moments before birth to determine if a fetus is viable.
No one waits until moments before birth to determine if a fetus is viable. WTH are you talking about?
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