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And you never miss a chance to tell me how wrong I am. Typical leftist - anyone who sees things differently is "wrong."
Any possibility YOU are wrong in your negative attitudes toward Jews who honor their religious obligations? Are you still OFFENDED that Jews will not attend a wedding scheduled for the Shabbat during the Days of Repentance? Are you possibly feeling a teensy bit bad that the Jewish members of your daughter's future husband cannot attend the wedding?
Oy vey!
How many times can I explain that I express my opinion in this forum with total commitment to explaining why I think what I do, what I think is right vs wrong, and needless to say, some people agree with me. Some people don't. To whatever extent we can reconcile those differences by way of exchange in this forum. Fine. If not, why?
It is again altogether WRONG to believe a difference of opinion and/or confidence in that opinion is "leftist." Some of the most conservative people I know are very opinionated, not afraid to let you know their opinion, and with me, of course they think I am wrong and not afraid to say so. This make them a "leftist" far as you are concerned? Trump certainly has no problem letting people know they are wrong. He a leftist too according to your weird insistence about such things? Leftist this. Leftist that. Please...
Rubbish. I never miss a chance to tell lots of people how wrong they are in this forum, especially about things that matter to me, especially if they are accusing me of being wrong. Why the Hell not? Who doesn't?
You just happen to be someone who is far more wrong than right more often than not about most things, but worse than that, all the misrepresentations of my opinion, the truth about so much covered in this thread, the carelessness, your lack of reason and logic, are all somewhat above average frustrating and exhausting.
For example, I have no more "negative attitude" about "Jews who honor their religious obligations" any more than I have negative attitude about anyone who does or thinks differently than I do AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CROSS THE LINE I HAVE DESCRIBED ALL TOO MANY TIMES NOW!
I absolutely do NOT feel bad about anyone who cannot attend the wedding as long as they do so with grace and good wishes for my daughter and her fiancé rather than the opposite! My own mother can't attend the wedding. Like I'm going to worry about these other people more inclined to focus on themselves rather than the happiness of the couple getting married? I really don't think so...
How many times can I explain that I express my opinion in this forum with total commitment to explaining why I think what I do, what I think is right vs wrong, and needless to say, some people agree with me. Some people don't. To whatever extent we can reconcile those differences by way of exchange in this forum. Fine. If not, why?
It is again altogether WRONG to believe a difference of opinion and/or confidence in that opinion is "leftist." Some of the most conservative people I know are very opinionated, not afraid to let you know their opinion, and with me, of course they think I am wrong and not afraid to say so. This make them a "leftist" far as you are concerned? Trump certainly has no problem letting people know they are wrong. He a leftist too according to your weird insistence about such things? Leftist this. Leftist that. Please...
Rubbish. I never miss a chance to tell lots of people how wrong they are in this forum, especially about things that matter to me, especially if they are accusing me of being wrong. Why the Hell not? Who doesn't?
You just happen to be someone who is far more wrong than right more often than not about most things, but worse than that, all the misrepresentations of my opinion, the truth about so much covered in this thread, your lack of reason and logic, are all somewhat frustrating and exhausting.
For example, I have no more "negative attitude" about "Jews who honor their religious obligations" any more than I have negative attitude about anyone who does or thinks differently than I do AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CROSS THE LINE I HAVE DESCRIBED ALL TOO MANY TIMES NOW!
I absolutely do NOT feel bad about anyone who cannot attend the wedding as long as they do so with grace and good wishes for my daughter and her fiancé rather than the opposite! My own mother can't attend the wedding. Like I'm going to worry about these other people more inclined to focus on themselves rather than the happiness of the couple getting married? I really don't think so...
Saying that I'm far more wrong than right...and my lack of reason.....and how I'm not logical....is YOUR OPINION.
And your callous attitude about the (stubborn, hmmmmm?) people who focus on themselves instread of the happiness of the wedding couple? Don't you get it? The Jews who are observing their holiday aren't "focusing on themselves" - they are honoring a sacred religious law. The fact that you think they should focus more on the couple, who scheduled a wedding during the Days of Awe knowing half the family is Jewish!!! - tells me something.
Now tell me , down deep.....are you a little disappointed your daughter is marrying a Jew?
How many times can I explain that I express my opinion in this forum with total commitment to explaining why I think what I do, what I think is right vs wrong, and needless to say, some people agree with me. Some people don't. To whatever extent we can reconcile those differences by way of exchange in this forum. Fine. If not, why?
It is again altogether WRONG to believe a difference of opinion and/or confidence in that opinion is "leftist." Some of the most conservative people I know are very opinionated, not afraid to let you know their opinion, and with me, of course they think I am wrong and not afraid to say so. This make them a "leftist" far as you are concerned? Trump certainly has no problem letting people know they are wrong. He a leftist too according to your weird insistence about such things? Leftist this. Leftist that. Please...
Rubbish. I never miss a chance to tell lots of people how wrong they are in this forum, especially about things that matter to me, especially if they are accusing me of being wrong. Why the Hell not? Who doesn't?
You just happen to be someone who is far more wrong than right more often than not about most things, but worse than that, all the misrepresentations of my opinion, the truth about so much covered in this thread, the carelessness, your lack of reason and logic, are all somewhat above average frustrating and exhausting.
For example, I have no more "negative attitude" about "Jews who honor their religious obligations" any more than I have negative attitude about anyone who does or thinks differently than I do AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CROSS THE LINE I HAVE DESCRIBED ALL TOO MANY TIMES NOW!
I absolutely do NOT feel bad about anyone who cannot attend the wedding as long as they do so with grace and good wishes for my daughter and her fiancé rather than the opposite! My own mother can't attend the wedding. Like I'm going to worry about these other people more inclined to focus on themselves rather than the happiness of the couple getting married? I really don't think so...
Jbgusa calls himself liberal and Rachel calls herself conservative. My point was a even a moderate or liberal had to adhere to religious practices and postpose his marriage dates . And he used the word "litter" when you were having a conversation as politely and decently as possible.
I mean its like saying I am liberal because I voted Hillary but will grow a beard and demand Merry Christmas is offensive to me
I'd like some more time to think about what you are explaining here, because I'm not sure I do upon first read, but I'm out of time as I really need to move onto other things now.
I'll sign off by explaining something else I've tried to explain many times before in this forum...
It is best to avoid labels altogether, to whatever extent possible, because all these labels can mean very different things to different people and without being specific about the issue at hand, confusion will soon follow, leading to lots of time explaining what was not meant, what really isn't so, what one didn't mean, what one doesn't really believe, etc.
Generally speaking, people don't really know their politics like they should, in particular all the different isms that people like to toss about and accuse other people of following with hardly a moments hesitation; capitalism, socialism, communism, liberalism, fascism, evangelism, Anti-Semitism...
You name it!
We can't all be right about all things, but of course we all remember how Obama was in no uncertain terms a "black, foreign-born, Muslim, communist out to ruin this country!" Who all insisted they were nothing but right about that too?
Must have been a "leftist" according to the equally "curious" lack of understanding about all these labels as expressed by all too many people!
Yes. A sincere cup of Mazel to you too. Is that the kind of wine you prefer?
Kidding! Just kidding! Before the next person launches into still more nuttiness...
Seriously though, you are Jewish. Right? And your wedding day was in October?
This mean you found the perfect day in October for all concerned? Or that you are a low "level observant" Jewish person? Perhaps banished from the rest of your family for being so? What exactly? I'm curious, interested, especially as I think you too were giving me quite the unjustified rash of xxxx not all that many comments ago.
Nawh, just plain ol American Methodist. DH's sister married in August. After that wedding, we decided to elope.
Her uncle used the reception for a business expense. My stepfather was Jewish, so we figured we'd have all uncle's friends and business associates that we didn't even know plus every jew in the town at the wedding.
eloping made a lot of sense.
Good luck with the wedding. Hop you have a heavy duty check book. They get out of hand really fast.
Saying that I'm far more wrong than right...and my lack of reason.....and how I'm not logical....is YOUR OPINION.
And your callous attitude about the (stubborn, hmmmmm?) people who focus on themselves instread of the happiness of the wedding couple? Don't you get it? The Jews who are observing their holiday aren't "focusing on themselves" - they are honoring a sacred religious law. The fact that you think they should focus more on the couple, who scheduled a wedding during the Days of Awe knowing half the family is Jewish!!! - tells me something.
Now tell me , down deep.....are you a little disappointed your daughter is marrying a Jew?
YES, AGAIN, MY OPINION!
For all the reasons you require I continue to explain!
Again it is not the "focus on themselves" part that crosses the line. I'm not going to explain this again, because I've done so too many times already, and I've really got to sign off and waste no more time doing so again!
For tomorrow, why the question about me being British? What on Earth does that have to do with fried rice?
For all the reasons you require I continue to explain!
Again it is not the "focus on themselves" part that crosses the line. I'm not going to explain this again, because I've done so too many times already, and I've really got to sign off and waste no more time doing so again!
For tomorrow, why the question about me being British? What on Earth does that have to do with fried rice?
I'll answer your question, however. Wrong again!
I'm an American. Born in Chicago, Illinois.
I was just curious is all. You used the word "rubbish" which is more common among Brits.
And you don't have to keep explaining things to me until I submit to your opinion. I have a different assessment of the wedding situation and your response to it.
Nawh, just plain ol American Methodist. DH's sister married in August. After that wedding, we decided to elope.
Her uncle used the reception for a business expense. My stepfather was Jewish, so we figured we'd have all uncle's friends and business associates that we didn't even know plus every jew in the town at the wedding.
eloping made a lot of sense.
Good luck with the wedding. Hop you have a heavy duty check book. They get out of hand really fast.
Ah. Got it. Thanks...
Really DO need to go now, but real quick, we told our daughter and fiancé we would like to help, even though they explained they were paying for their wedding. Won't get into all their reasons or ours, but we let them know what we were willing to spend in total, for the wedding dress, and whatever other costs related to the wedding we might take on including our cost to attend their destination wedding. Whatever was left over from that pre-understood total amount, after those expenses, would be there's to use in whatever way they wish; honeymoon, savings, marriage counseling...
First time I've ever heard of a wedding being used as a business expense. Some people don't miss a trick!
I was just curious is all. You used the word "rubbish" which is more common among Brits.
And you don't have to keep explaining things to me until I submit to your opinion. I have a different assessment of the wedding situation and your response to it.
I explain not so you submit but so you understand what you clearly don't, clear up what you misrepresent, defend against what you falsely accuse, just for starters...
I'm not THAT stupid to think you are going to "submit." Or that anyone else is going to change their mind about anything in this forum. In the course of these sorts of exchanges, however, everyone is free to judge as they will. Perhaps it is more the judgement of others I am more hopeful about and why I bother. I think that might be it. Thanks.
I explain not so you submit but so you understand what you clearly don't, clear up what you misrepresent, defend against what you falsely accuse, just for starters...
I'm not THAT stupid to think you are going to "submit." Or that anyone else is going to change their mind about anything in this forum. In the course of these sorts of exchanges, however, everyone is free to judge as they will. Perhaps it is more the judgement of others I am more hopeful about and why I bother. I think that might be it. Thanks.
OF course I understand. I just have a different understanding of the situation than you want me to have.
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