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Old 03-30-2019, 03:15 AM
 
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Nice way to assume what you don't know. Facts matter, not your opinion.

Instead of posting facts, you attack facts. Typical rhetoric to try to achieve your agenda of not agreeing with facts. Your opinion is irrelevant. It is a fact that MOST people are satisfied with ACA and it's profitable. Of course, it's not perfect and doesn't satisfy all Americans but there isn't one policy, regulation or law that does.

Many judges AND justices disagree with your opinion including the judge that struck it down yesterday and the 5 justices that previously struck it down. They are still on the bench. Your personal opinion doesn't validate facts. I know many people that benefit from the ACA.

Fox News poll: Voters like Obamacare more than GOP tax cuts
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/1074570002/

Poll: ObamaCare favorability reaches all-time high
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...-all-time-high

Public Approval Of Obamacare Hits Record High Ahead Of 2018 Midterms
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/pub...-2018-midterms
You are not posting facts - you are posting articles about a survey that doesn't show the methodology to see if the results are biased or not. The Democrats have always had their hands in the health and pharmaceutical industry.

Millions lost coverage under the ACA and that's easy to google. I can show you how if you're unfamiliar with it. Many did indeed than sign up with an ACA compliant program but at a cost of higher rates, high deductibles, the inability to keep the drs they loved and trusted - which Obama said would not change and a smaller selection of policies to choose from.

Many insurance companies pulled out as it is not profitable - which you can also google - leaving many in certain areas without a choice of which insurance company they wanted to be covered by.

The taxpayers were the losers as Medicaid increased the most and that's coming out of our pockets through the higher rates and high deductibles.
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
That shows KayAnn doesn't pay for her own Insurance and is totally clueless.

More people lost Coverage due to ACA than gained coverage and it raised premiums and deductibles 200-500% for us poor suckers who actually have to buy Insurance and don't get Govt subsidies.
Obama care is a disaster. Obama knew it too, he made executive orders to fund it to keep it afloat
but reality sets in, the premiums and deductibles kept going up.
The CBO totally got it wrong about the premiums. The premiums skyrocketed
as well as the deductibles. People that actually had insurance pre Obama care actually lost it because
now they can't afford it. You pay more and get less because the deductible skyrocketed for the user.

I would love everybody to have affordable healthcare. There are complex issues involve, specifically cost.
When you try to insure everyone, especially with preexisting conditions, the 5% or the “Super-users” with complex medical needs make up a small fraction of U.S. patients, but they account for half of the nation’s overall health-care spending.

Even Bill Clinton exposed Obama Care as the "craziest thing in the world" on CNN lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETVcsPRTSHM
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Old 03-30-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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trumps health care plan? i cant find a link to its details,
Neither can Trump.
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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The options on the table would take us back to a time when people with pre-existing conditions couldn't get insurance, is that really what you consider an improvement?
Thanks for making an excellent point. I can answer for him. He doesn't believe that the government should play any role in health insurance at all. In effect, he doesn't care whether those with chronic illnesses or medical conditions that were truly beyond their control get either health insurance or medical care. What he cares about is that the so-called "free market" is able to function the way he thinks it should.

These people are not a majority, but what decent people lose sight of is that there is a sizable segment of this country that thinks like that. They really don't care what happens to people who cannot afford health insurance in a "free market". Its just their problem and even if they didn't do anything to develop insulin dependent diabetes, multiple schlerosis, or any one of a thousand chronic health problems they better either deal with it or just drop dead.

One of the difficulties moderate and progressive people have is that they don't make enough room for the fact that a chunk of this country really just doesn't care. It may be totally amoral and it may not be what we learned in church, or what we were taught in school. However, many people think like that and they get as much of a vote as you do.
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