Do you consider healthcare as a right for every citizen a far left position? (regular, weapon)
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My mom is currently will be 92 on May 1. A life-long RN in a county hospital medical/surgical unit, her view is much of the time people get well despite their medical care.
Aside from childbirth and cataract surgery, she's seen a doctor maybe 5 times in her entire life. She's never had a mammogram or colonoscopy. She shakes her head at seniors who schedule their life around thrice-weekly doctors visits that do little except provide for the mortgage payments of the practice's employees.
Do this for me, ask Mom how a type 1 diabetic gets better without insulin, ask her how many cancerous tumors go away on their own, and how someone walks with an untreated compound fracture of their tibia. I think you heard her wrong for Mom is getting confused in her old age
That's certainly not the case most of the time in most countries with such systems. Worst case scenario yes that does happen, but then worst case scenario under the US system is that the waiting list is effectively forever if a person doesn't have insurance to cover the surgery.
Surgeries can be financed. What hasnt helped is govt meddling, controls, edicts, etc. in pretty much every sector of healthcare that have made surgery (and everything else) exorbitantly expensive. Why people want the state to meddle more or take it over entirely is beyond me. And I dont really care how its done on the other side of planet in a country with a fraction of the US population in a country that doesnt have its military spread all over the globe fighting numerous wars, while at the same time also funding a ginormous welfare state.
The US is full of dreamers and naive economic children who are for the most part too lazy to look behind the curtain to see how things really work.
US will have UHC just not with current old generation in place today protecting the status quo.
The reality is that it has nothing to do with the age of voters and everything to do with the corrupt system of campaign finance and the destruction of the labor union movements. If other developed countries had our system of campaign finance and extremely weak labor unions, they wouldnt have universal health care either.
Workers being dependent on employment for the health of their families is a strong weapon for the employer in the relentless struggle between worker and employer. Workers are rightly terrified of losing their job when the consequence could be the death of their family members or themselves and will be obedient and submissive as a result. The ruling class will not give up this weapon of control without a fight. Thats why we see their puppets in Congress and the White House and their media arm (basically all corporate mainstream media) fighting tooth and nail to convince ordinary people that we can not have it.
That's bollox, you could always try asking somebody who actually lives in the UK about their actual real experience concerning the NHS? I know how about asking me!! I AM the horses mouth. I can tell you now the NHS has saved me for sure, you tell me - what 'system' is better for me and my Mrs 1) a system where she gets free x-rays, CT scans, heart checks, physio, councilling etc or 2) a system that wouldn't give us these things because it would cost us too much money.
But your taxes pay for schools, the fire brigade and roads, what has a Porsche got to do with it!!?? Surely even you can see that!
And people here think they can wish free healthcare into existence same as a Porsche!!! Surely you see that mindset at work!!!
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