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"Right to Work" is perhaps poorly named. What it does is prevents you being forced to join, or worse, forced to pay dues to, a little club to work and earn a living. It prevents unions from extorting money from those that do not wish to join them.
I have nothing against (private) unions as such. If you wish to join one, fine. But there should be no pressure to join, no forced dues from those that do not wish to join, and no requirement to join a union to work at any business.
So should the people who benefit from unions not be required to pay for that? Why not? Freeloading isnt commendable.
As the evidence is overwhelming that weak and declining labor unions and weak and declining middle class go hand in hand, I seriously do not understand why so many people want to see the end of labor unions and the destruction of the middle class.
Without a strong middle class, society is extremely vulnerable to all sorts of revolutions.
I support freedom of association, meaning right-to-work laws and mandatory bargaining with unions should both be abolished. If a company doesn't want to bargain with a union, that's their business. If companies find it easier to bargain collectively rather than on an individual basis and they only want to bargain with union members, so be it.
No. Workers in the US have zero bargaining power. Since 1977 worker productivity has gone up 77% while pay (adjusted for inflation) has only gone up 12% (source) During that time corporate profits and CEO/Board of Directors pay has skyrocketed.
Yes, the world is more competitive. But it's also true that US corporations are skimming more off the top for themselves and paying their workers a lot less. Workers are NOT getting compensated for their contributions to the corporate bottom line.
the quantity of unskilled labor has also skyrocketed. you are paid according to the labor market for your skills not how much your company makes.
collusion is already illegal. otherwise I don't know what you are referring to. sounds like more corporations are evil boogeyman nonsense. educate yourself on why unions came to be.
how is it not illegal when its clearly occuring with our average wages the last 20-30 years? Its obvious if the big business owners are not colluding they are doing the next thing closest to it without it "lawfully" being it
So should the people who benefit from unions not be required to pay for that? Why not? Freeloading isnt commendable.
As the evidence is overwhelming that weak and declining labor unions and weak and declining middle class go hand in hand, I seriously do not understand why so many people want to see the end of labor unions and the destruction of the middle class.
Without a strong middle class, society is extremely vulnerable to all sorts of revolutions.
you are far more obsessed with the notion of the 'middle class' (which you probably can't even define) than most people are. its in a leftist's nature to put people in boxes. I am solidly in the middle class. Almost every single other person I know is as well. very few are in labor unions.
So should the people who benefit from unions not be required to pay for that? Why not? Freeloading isnt commendable.
As the evidence is overwhelming that weak and declining labor unions and weak and declining middle class go hand in hand, I seriously do not understand why so many people want to see the end of labor unions and the destruction of the middle class.
Without a strong middle class, society is extremely vulnerable to all sorts of revolutions.
The only "freeloaders" are the unions themselves, in particular the "officers" (shop stewards, union reps). They make a pile of money off the members that are pressured into paying "protection money" into their little club. Little different than organized crime-but without the integrity.
There are some exceptions. Some trade unions fund apprenticeships, train their members and assist them in finding jobs. But most just exist to extort unearned money from both the business, and from their own membership.
how is it not illegal when its clearly occuring with our average wages the last 20-30 years? Its obvious if the big business owners are not colluding they are doing the next thing closest to it without it "lawfully" being it
you are far more obsessed with the notion of the 'middle class' (which you probably can't even define) than most people are. its in a leftist's nature to put people in boxes. I am solidly in the middle class. Almost every single other person I know is as well. very few are in labor unions.
The middle class has declined sharply over the past 40 years together with the power of labor. As pointed out, it isnt because of the globalized world and technology because other countries are also subject to that, but hasnt seen the decline of the middle class and skyrocketing inequality as in America.
If the middle class is a leftist concept, then so be it.
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