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Businesses have the Republican Party. Unions are the only protection workers have to make a decent wage and have an avenue for complaints. Do that without a union and you have to go hat in hand to the boss and hope you don’t get fired after the meeting. Unions are good. Most who have never been in a union don’t know what they’re talking about. Usually spewing the company line.
Unions are basically the flip side of corporations. If capital owners can band together under legal privilege in the form of a limited liability company that has its own legal personality, can negotiate on behalf of all the individual owners, protects investors from personal loss beyond the amount invested etc then why not something similar for workers? If every employer was an individual natural person then there wouldn't be the imbalance of power making unions necessary to avoid one side getting screwed over in bargaining
no actually my assertion is reality. what is not reality is that worker pay is required or expected to be proportionate to everyone else's pay and/or tied to some fictional index. that makes no sense. is it some massive conspiracy that all companies have gotten together agreed to pay unskilled/low-skilled labor or is it just the result competition of millions and millions of individual labor 'transactions'? Which is more realistic? Or is everyone just stupid like the other guy is saying?
here is a good example of a company allowed to do as it pleases with no one able to step up for the workers...…
Right-to-work is a right to work for less and will completely destroy the remaining labor unions in this country. Benefiting from strong unions but not be willing to pay is just wrong. Its freeloading. Freeloading is not a basic right.
A person can not be serious when they claim they support strong labor unions while at the same time supporting right-to-work-for-less laws.
No country has every had a strong middle class without strong labor unions. There is a reason why the ruling class always goes for the throat/the labor unions in their war against the working class. There is power in numbers and when capital is highly organized while labor is disorganized, capital always wins. At the expense of Joe Sixpack.
Whats interesting is that people on the far right seek to destroy labor unions which is a huge gift to employers who push for massive illegal immigration. A labor market with no proper labor rights is a massive pull factor for illegal immigration. In labor markets with strong labor rights thats enforced, employers have less incentives to engage in a race-to-the-bottom.
If for no other reason.. say you are the CEO of a company with 50,000 employees. Do you really want 50,000 people at your office door every year to re-negotiate their wage/benefit package? Would it not be much more efficient to have a union hold meetings with its members and poll what they desire and hold their own vote on what they would like and have it all presented as a united concern?
Right-to-work is a right to work for less and will completely destroy the remaining labor unions in this country. Benefiting from strong unions but not be willing to pay is just wrong. Its freeloading. Freeloading is not a basic right.
Best way to make more money is to get an education or learn a trade. I don't think we should artificially inflate salaries. We are not living in the time of Upton Sinclair.
The country will do fine without unions. People who have a profession or skill in demand will do just fine. The rest need to get educated. Otherwise they are going to get what they deserve. And the robots are coming. And the unions are not going to save us from them.
If for no other reason.. say you are the CEO of a company with 50,000 employees. Do you really want 50,000 people at your office door every year to re-negotiate their wage/benefit package? Would it not be much more efficient to have a union hold meetings with its members and poll what they desire and hold their own vote on what they would like and have it all presented as a united concern?
you act like they are on equal footing. they aren't.
Unions are basically the flip side of corporations. If capital owners can band together under legal privilege in the form of a limited liability company that has its own legal personality, can negotiate on behalf of all the individual owners, protects investors from personal loss beyond the amount invested etc then why not something similar for workers? If every employer was an individual natural person then there wouldn't be the imbalance of power making unions necessary to avoid one side getting screwed over in bargaining
again you act like the owners and labor are on equal footing. they aren't. you want the say you put up the capital. it would be an apt comparison if the union had as much equity as the owners. I don't know why this is difficult to understand.
First of all, 'right to work' is a misnomer, a politically concocted term intended to skew the debate. It does not confer a 'right to work.' If a company does not want to hire you, they don't have to. And if they do hire you, and then decide to terminate you, they can do that too. So, no 'right to work.'
Collective bargaining agreements (CBAs) are negotiated for all employees within a 'shop.' They cover everything from wages to vacations to employee discipline procedures. If you don't want to join a union, go to a job that is non-union. The CBA is basically the operating system for the workplace. So to not join the union is kind of like taking a job at Apple and saying, hey, I don't like ios; I demand the right to use Android instead.
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