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Old 04-19-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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IDK... I was in OKC a few months ago and that's a damn fine city. I was very surprised. Reminded me a lot of Ft Worth which has a very vibrant downtown and plenty of big money jobs.

It had plenty of very nice places of entertainment, a large gay community, lots to do, a clean place, few homeless.

OP I think your stereotyping. There's a lot of money in OK and it seems to be fairly progressive.
I know this post can come across as stereotyping, but I'm just choosing states that voted for Trump by large margins. I could easily have chosen Wyoming, Alabama, or elsewhere.

The point is that none of these states are especially high performing nationally in terms of growth. That doesn't make them bad or anything. It just means that when the usual suspects associate red states with high levels of growth, they really mean Texas.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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I would much rather live in those places than California, NY, or IL.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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I know this post can come across as stereotyping, but I'm just choosing states that voted for Trump by large margins. I could easily have chosen Wyoming, Alabama, or elsewhere.

The point is that none of these states are especially high performing nationally in terms of growth. That doesn't make them bad or anything. It just means that when the usual suspects associate red states with high levels of growth, they really mean Texas.
WV voted for Trump for one reason. Hillary promised to put the remaining coal miners out of a job and put them on welfare. Now the vote was one of immediacy. In the long picture the issue with coal mining will have to be addressed but that is the reason Trump won. As I noted, Sanders beat Hillary in WV.

Manchin won re-election and the state voted for a (D) for governor. (The D's made a huge mistake by nominating him to start with but that is another topic).

People love to stereotype and demean people for making choices other than theirs. I don't understand it.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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I know this post can come across as stereotyping, but I'm just choosing states that voted for Trump by large margins. I could easily have chosen Wyoming, Alabama, or elsewhere.

The point is that none of these states are especially high performing nationally in terms of growth. That doesn't make them bad or anything. It just means that when the usual suspects associate red states with high levels of growth, they really mean Texas.
Here is my perspective. If you gave me the choice between Alabama and Wyoming, I'm picking Wyoming. Wyoming is closer to Colorado. Wyoming has a lifestyle more in tune with what I like. Wyoming has a better quality of life than Alabama. I like Wyoming's landscapes.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The point is that none of these states are especially high performing nationally in terms of growth. That doesn't make them bad or anything. It just means that when the usual suspects associate red states with high levels of growth, they really mean Texas.
There is very little growth to be had in agriculture. In fact, agriculture tends to be negative-growth. Which is why people are leaving rural areas.

The bigger the tractor, the fewer the farmhands. Almost all growth is in cities. Especially those cities who get the most influx of tax-dollars, or are the first to touch the fresh money created by the Federal Reserve.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Do this yesterday. Find a job tho first. CO might be to your liking.
If I wait on that, I'll never be able to leave. It's extraordinarily difficult to find employment in an areas where you don't have a local address. And Colorado is too far for me to successfully lie. I maybe could pull off Dallas that way.

Speaking of Dallas, it's a red state that people are flocking to, but it's the bluer areas of the state that are booming. You don't see a lot of people flocking to Amarillo or Midland-Odessa.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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The libs are flooding "red" states like TN,NC, MT, WY, AZ, TX. The libs have already over-run and ruined CO- it used to be a nice state. FL is like NJ and NY South- try to find an actual Floridian anywhere but the panhandle anymore. I remember when people in FL actually had southern accents.

Libs move away from "unpleasant" areas. The thing they do not realize is that they are what makes those areas undesirable. You can never run away from you.

I don't see how it's remotely possible MT and WY are being flooded by anybody. But I guess when the entire state's population is less than 15% of my metro area. One family of five moving there would count as "flooding".

Let's be real, the area in TX, TN, and NC that are being flooded by transplants are generally liberal blue area: Austin, Houston, Nashville, Durham, etc.

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Old 04-19-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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I would much rather live in those places than California, NY, or IL.
Not me. I would hate to be landlocked, too claustrophobic. I like living on a Great Lake.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Good question. I live in Oklahoma and I'm currently getting very close to just quitting my job and packing what I can into my car and getting out. Life is too short to spend it in a place this miserable. The economy isn't bad right now nationally so I'm thinking about doing this while I can.
In your case it's not the location that's miserable. You'll be the same no matter where you go.

In West Virginia's case, it receives a lot of rural pioneers from the DC area. Enough so that several commuter trains (the Brunswick line) run daily.

https://ggwash.org/view/41861/check-...s-commute-from

https://www.mta.maryland.gov/schedule
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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In your case it's not the location that's miserable. You'll be the same no matter where you go.
One of the truest things said. It applies to many.
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