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Old 04-21-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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1. I'm not a knee-jerk, partisan hack lemming. But I could not and would not under any circumstances live in any of the towns in your Top 10 list. Not because of the cost of living (because if any of these towns were under consideration it would be because the job offer was sufficient enough for the COL to not be a consideration). But for both QOL and political considerations. I have lived in large metropolitan areas in England, Australia and Canada. I no longer want to live in big cities. Too many people, too little space, too little breathing room, too many choices, too much noise, too fast a pace, too much.............just too much. Additionally, the extreme partisan politics of these towns would preclude me from living in any of them. Completely, totally, absolutely contrary to the priorities, belief systems and priorities that I have in my life. Living in any of them would be like a prison sentence to me.

2. Re: your conservative cities. Lived in Middle TN for many years. Know Knoxville, Murfreesboro and Chattanooga very well. Knoxville and Chattanooga have some great qualities about them (not the least of which is their proximity to rivers, mountains, state and federal parks). Murfreesboro is a congested, crap-hole, bedroom community to a very liberal Nashville. Good place to shop and eat (and in the case of my son, go to college) but wouldn't live there if you paid me good money. All three - high crime. Nope, nope and hell nope. Huntsville AL isn't any better.

There are no cities on your list that I would consider. Ever.
I absolutely agree with you.

Besides southern California, I, lived in Germany, England, Japan, and Shanghai China, I too will avoid big cities as much as I could.

I like to live by the ocean and a military friendly neighborhood would be my ideal. So San Diego perhaps.

 
Old 04-21-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Yes, I have. I used to be an OTR driver. And had been to both states on cross country drives when I was kid
There’s plenty of what you call diversity there.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Plus, a lot of good Southern California cities have been ruined by "diversity" (different types of gang members).

Even an area in Pasadena is pretty bad. The Carpenters grew up in Downey, California, Downey used to be a solid middle class neighborhood, now the place is full of gangs. yuck!


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Old 04-21-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Houston
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What makes it a bad thing?
It tends to be negative when cultures conflict. On average I would say it has more negatives than positives. Tolerance is what is needed. Some people ain’t real tolerant.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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It tends to be negative when cultures conflict. On average I would say it has more negatives than positives. Tolerance is what is needed. Some people ain’t real tolerant.
Disagree. Immigrants made this country what it is, the US was a country founded by immigrants. Immigrants have made significant contributions to this country economically and without healthy immigration,, we will end up like Japan with its high concentration of elderly and economic stagflation
 
Old 04-21-2019, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Disagree. Immigrants made this country what it is, the US was a country founded by immigrants. Immigrants have made significant contributions to this country economically and without healthy immigration,, we will end up like Japan with its high concentration of elderly and economic stagflation
Disagree? Well, different people have different idea of quality of life. Diversity has pros and cons, why people have to deny this?

Japan has a lot of problems, but their policy works for them. What works in Japan will never work here, and vice versa. So let's not compare apples to oranges here. Japan in my opinion has ONE of the best health care system in the world. But does it work here in the U.S.? Oh, hell no.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Originally Posted by WiseManOnceSaid View Post
This is based on recent voting records:

1) Berkeley, CA
2) San Francisco, CA
3) Oakland, CA
4) Arlington, VA
5) Pasadena, CA
6) Boulder, CO
7) Sunnyvale, CA
8) Durham, NC
9) Alexandria, VA
10) Bellevue, WA

I wanted to ask as general question: Hypothetically, without using politics, if you were given a job offer in one of the cities above? Could you put politics aside to relocate to San Francisco? Keeping in mind costs of living, quality of life, real estate values, demographics, etc.

What about one of the most conservative cities?

1) Lafayette, LA
2) Tyler, TX
3) The Woodlands, TX
4) Knoxville, TN
5) Frisco, TX
6) Carrollton, TX
7) Murfreesboro, TN
8) Chattanooga, TN
9) Scottsdale, AZ
10) Huntsville, AL

Where would you rather live politics aside?

For me using these two lists I'd pick
1) Scotsdale, AZ
2) Boulder, CO
3) The Woodlands, TX
Oh my. And Miami ?? You left out my beloved Miami! Not even NY ! Your survey is flawed. start over and yes most large cities are liberal because they house millions of different kind of people. Never move into a town that forces you to be a puppet,
 
Old 04-21-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Lafayette, Louisiana is socially very liberal even though they vote Republican. South Louisiana in general is socially very liberal unlike the rest of the South. In fact being shaped by my years in West Virginia and in a conservative part of Maryland, I'm more socially conservative than many of my friends here who had lived their entire lives in South Louisiana. For example they're more permissive of drinking on Sundays, gambling, etc. I still feel uncomfortable drinking on Sunday and think there are too many bars here though I do drink myself. Lafayette in particular is a very Catholic area which makes it somewhat liberal too vs the Baptist areas.

I would only define an area as socially conservative if you can't get alcohol there on Sunday and/or there is no casino nearby.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Oh my. And Miami ?? You left out my beloved Miami! Not even NY ! Your survey is flawed. start over and yes most large cities are liberal because they house millions of different kind of people. Never move into a town that forces you to be a puppet,

Which town forces people to be a puppet?

My fiance came from a southern small town, these are the friendly people I've ever met my entire life. I don't think most even care of politics. I've never seen one person flies Confederate flag. lol Most of these people have a military background and they view me as one of their own and the older folks treat me like their granddaughter, the younger folks treat me like their little sister. I love it. This said, in all fairness and honesty, even southern Californians don't really care too much about politics. I'd say internet created a different reality. lol

Forgot to add: I know all my parents' old neighbors. My own neighborhood is relatively speaking "new." I gave my neighbor an apple pie as a "welcome to this neighborhood" gift, they looked at me as if I just grew a second head, although they did show appreciation. I think most of my neighbors want to keep it to themselves, which I can totally respect. lol (These are lovely couple from China, I guess they are just "shy". )

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Old 04-21-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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Disagree? Well, different people have different idea of quality of life. Diversity has pros and cons, why people have to deny this?

Japan has a lot of problems, but their policy works for them. What works in Japan will never work here, and vice versa. So let's not compare apples to oranges here. Japan in my opinion has ONE of the best health care system in the world. But does it work here in the U.S.? Oh, hell no.
Immigration is needed if a country can't keep its population growth at replacement levels to maintain a given economic output. Whether you like it or not,, the US fertility rate isn't at replacement levels, so personally, I want immigrants coming in and becoming new taxpayers, esp with the trillions in debt trump just added to the national credit card
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