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Old 05-11-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Murica
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Call this crazy but good luck with any other strategy.. Sinkholing the market is the only solution..
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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Its not in Mexicos best interest at all, Mexico doesnt have a drug abuse problem, it wouldnt change much if drugs were 100% legal there, majority of the people could not even afford to have the addiction in the first place (and pay what addicts in the US are paying anyway).


Imo, the only thing it may impact, is the cartels ability to produce and transport the drugs into the US, but they dont seem to be having any problems doing that now, so Im not sure how much would change with total legalization.


The only thing that really matters is that drugs remain illegal in the US and enforcement remains aggressive, this is what is keeping the cartels in business and thriving.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Its not in Mexicos best interest at all, Mexico doesnt have a drug abuse problem, it wouldnt change much if drugs were 100% legal there, majority of the people could not even afford to have the addiction in the first place (and pay what addicts in the US are paying anyway).


Imo, the only thing it may impact, is the cartels ability to produce and transport the drugs into the US, but they dont seem to be having any problems doing that now, so Im not sure how much would change with total legalization.


The only thing that really matters is that drugs remain illegal in the US and enforcement remains aggressive, this is what is keeping the cartels in business and thriving.
there's more to it than just the drug abuse issue- there's the tremendous amount of violent crime that arises out of the illegal drug trade.

you can see stuff like this at least once a month, this is from 16 hours ago-

Nearly 3 dozen bodies found buried in western Mexico, likely linked to gang-related violence, officials say

Sinaloa cartel: Cruelty of El Chapo's Sinaloa cartel knows no bounds: Beheadings by chainsaw, body parts strewn in the streets
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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there's more to it than just the drug abuse issue- there's the tremendous amount of violent crime that arises out of the illegal drug trade.

you can see stuff like this at least once a month, this is from 16 hours ago-

Nearly 3 dozen bodies found buried in western Mexico, likely linked to gang-related violence, officials say

Sinaloa cartel: Cruelty of El Chapo's Sinaloa cartel knows no bounds: Beheadings by chainsaw, body parts strewn in the streets
So true.

The sad part is that some people think it is drugs causing all that violence, when in reality it is prohibition causing it. Just like 100 years ago (except back then the drug was alcohol and the mobster's machine gun was the weapon of choice). All people have to do to see it is take off their blinders. Unless, of course, one has an agenda because they make their living off of The War On Drugs. In that case, even taking the blinders off doesn't help.

But it sounds like Mexico might be opening their eyes to reality, so maybe there's hope for it sometime before I leave this world...

And there's this:

https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

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The Law Enforcement Action Partnership’s mission is to unite and mobilize the voice of law enforcement in support of drug policy and criminal justice reforms that will make communities safer by focusing law enforcement resources on the greatest threats to public safety, promoting alternatives to arrest and incarceration, addressing the root causes of crime, and working toward healing police-community relations.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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there's more to it than just the drug abuse issue- there's the tremendous amount of violent crime that arises out of the illegal drug trade.

you can see stuff like this at least once a month, this is from 16 hours ago-

Nearly 3 dozen bodies found buried in western Mexico, likely linked to gang-related violence, officials say

Sinaloa cartel: Cruelty of El Chapo's Sinaloa cartel knows no bounds: Beheadings by chainsaw, body parts strewn in the streets
All that is just due to the different cartels fighting over turf rights in the US, if Mexico legalized all drugs, this would still be going on the same as it is now, the US would still be the number one customer and as long as drugs are illegal in the US, the cartels will continue to thrive and clash with each other.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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All that is just due to the different cartels fighting over turf rights in the US, if Mexico legalized all drugs, this would still be going on the same as it is now, the US would still be the number one customer and as long as drugs are illegal in the US, the cartels will continue to thrive and clash with each other.
i agree - that's why mexico wants the US to imitate their decriminalization plan.

even that wouldn't do it, as they do big business in Europe and asia as well as the USA.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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i agree - that's why mexico wants the US to imitate their decriminalization plan.

even that wouldn't do it, as they do big business in Europe and asia as well as the USA.
That would be a disaster for MExico if the US legalized or decriminalized all drugs, the cartels would be out of business.


Every drug they produce, could be grown in the south western US if it was legalized.
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