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"pushed out of the city"? Please share the details of that plan with us.
BTW - please tell us what your solution is. Or do you think we should just let this behavior continue until our cities look like they did in the medieval times.
Maybe like some others have mentioned like warehouses or quasi jails with the freedom to leave if they want to get help. Tent cities in rural areas. There is no one size solution for all. Some of these issues were exacerbated by the drug companies and doctors pushing drugs. Others are just a list of poor decisions. Some is not controlling our boarder. Despite what we have been told from the left for DECADES now that drug use does not hurt anyone else, we now see if full view that is bullshttt. Of course it hurts larger society and eventually hits all of us at a personal level.
You can't put people in 'quasi-jails' unless they have been convicted of a crime, try reading the constitution some time. Do some research on what is legal and what isn't and then get back to me.
BTW - please tell us what your solution is. Or do you think we should just let this behavior continue until our cities look like they did in the medieval times.
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Originally Posted by 2sleepy
You can't put people in 'quasi-jails' unless they have been convicted of a crime, try reading the constitution some time. Do some research on what is legal and what isn't and then get back to me.
Last I heard, doing drugs and crapping on the street was illegal and jailable offenses. I am not even suggesting they do “hard” time. Jus not let them ruin areas for others. I think it is you who better go back and study law.
Last I heard, doing drugs and crapping on the street was illegal and jailable offenses. I am not even suggesting they do “hard” time. Jus not let them ruin areas for others. I think it is you who better go back and study law.
aww..don't smack yourself too hard now. In California public urination or defecation can be charged as either a misdemeanor or an infraction, either way the most the cop could do is write the individual a citation. Doing drugs is not technically against the law, but possession of drugs is. The problem is that in order to charge someone with possession you would have to seize the drugs and test the substance which might prove difficult since a person doing drugs on the street would toss the evidence if they saw a cop.
It's not as easy as you seem to think it is. These are complex problems and trying to solve them solely by arresting people is largely unsuccessful.
aww..don't smack yourself too hard now. In California public urination or defecation can be charged as either a misdemeanor or an infraction, either way the most the cop could do is write the individual a citation. Doing drugs is not technically against the law, but possession of drugs is. The problem is that in order to charge someone with possession you would have to seize the drugs and test the substance which might prove difficult since a person doing drugs on the street would toss the evidence if they saw a cop.
It's not as easy as you seem to think it is. These are complex problems and trying to solve them solely by arresting people is largely unsuccessful.
You are stating the problem for me. It is because of these softie liberal policies that make it difficult.
Let’s be honest. That’s not true. Those people exist, but they live in their car or on someone’s couch until they can get back on their feet or housing becomes available. They’re not out there causing problems. The ones causing problems are drug addicts or people who are mentally ill and drug addicts. It’s a DRUG problem, not a housing problem.
They are more likely to have a car or sofa surf, but that there are people who are homeless for economic reasons who have nowhere to sleep. They are more likely to hide rather than lay down on a sidewalk because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. The thing you missed here is that the person I was responding to lumped all homeless together, I was simply trying to explain to them that there are people who are homeless for a variety of reasons.
But whether you want to admit it or not, it is a housing problem. There are far more and junkies who are housed than those who are homeless but you don't hear about them because they use in the privacy of their own home. If it were simply a 'drug' problem, none of those people would be able to remain in their homes..they would all be homeless, right?
aww..don't smack yourself too hard now. In California public urination or defecation can be charged as either a misdemeanor or an infraction, either way the most the cop could do is write the individual a citation. Doing drugs is not technically against the law, but possession of drugs is. The problem is that in order to charge someone with possession you would have to seize the drugs and test the substance which might prove difficult since a person doing drugs on the street would toss the evidence if they saw a cop.
It's not as easy as you seem to think it is. These are complex problems and trying to solve them solely by arresting people is largely unsuccessful.
One enough people get fed up with this, we will change the laws.
They are more likely to have a car or sofa surf, but that there are people who are homeless for economic reasons who have nowhere to sleep. They are more likely to hide rather than lay down on a sidewalk because they don't want to draw attention to themselves. The thing you missed here is that the person I was responding to lumped all homeless together, I was simply trying to explain to them that there are people who are homeless for a variety of reasons.
But whether you want to admit it or not, it is a housing problem. There are far more and junkies who are housed than those who are homeless but you don't hear about them because they use in the privacy of their own home. If it were simply a 'drug' problem, none of those people would be able to remain in their homes..they would all be homeless, right?
Why is there a shortage of low cost apartments? Were they all torn down??
Or, is it that low cost apartments are now expensive because of increased demand?
Do you know what causes increased demand? More people.
Now if only we knew where all these people who need apartments were suddenly coming from.....
Why is there a shortage of low cost apartments? Were they all torn down??
Or, is it that low cost apartments are now expensive because of increased demand?
Do you know what causes increased demand? More people.
Now if only we knew where all these people who need apartments were suddenly coming from.....
Hmmm....
ITS VERY CONFUSING, RIGHT??
You claim that high rents are pushing drug addicts out of their homes.
High rents are directly caused by illegal immigration, which I’m quite sure you support.
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Last I heard, doing drugs and crapping on the street was illegal and jailable offenses. I am not even suggesting they do “hard” time. Jus not let them ruin areas for others. I think it is you who better go back and study law.
