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but that doesn't change the fact that bill Clinton is a liberal hero, and yet a serialrapist... or are you saying Juanita Broaddrick | Kathleen Willey | Paula Jones | Sandra Allen James | Eileen Wellstone | Christy Zercher | Carolyn Moffet | Helen Dowdy | Becky Brown | Regina Blakely Hopper | Monica Lewinsky | Elizabeth Ward Gracen | Gennifer Flowers | Connie Hamzy | Dolly Kyle Browning | Sally Miller (Sally Perdue) | Lencola Sullivan .....are all 100% liars???..
Serial cheater Trump has called all his accusers liars, too. This includes the women he paid to quiet.
It is obvious both of them are cut from the same cloth.
Popularity? Nope. It was severely damaged. It was so damaged that Al Gore saw Clinton as a political liability in 2000 and asked his own President to stay out of the campaign.
Did just everyone in congress in the time think being a bonafide rapist was cool?
clinton did not rape lewinski, he was accused of raping other women though.
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Only the House impeached him. The Senate didn't even bring it to a vote.
He gained popularity, for the dud it turned out to be. Showed how petty congress really is.
yes they did. the senate voted to acquit on all impeachment charges as they did not have enough votes to convict clinton, they needed 2/3s of the senate to vote to convict.
Shows how little the Democrats controlling the Senate cared about the law. Perjury-while on trial for a sexual harassment clase, doesn't seem to matter to Dems when it's one of their own. The original harassment case came about when he had the Arkansas state police find a woman Clinton identified, had them bring her to his hotel room, then exposed himself and tried to make her perform oral sex on him. During that trial, he lied under oath about his other sexual...escapades.
For those that are too young to remember-he wasn't impeached for getting a BJ in the oval office from an intern that was his daughter's age. He was impeached for a crime-lying under oath. This is a level above "lying to the FBI"-that IIRC Flynn serving a sentence for.
Yes Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress, and rightfully so. No he wasn't convicted because of partisan vote. Yes it's feckless. I think you and I can agree on that, but I have a question for you. If you agree that Clinton deserved to be impeached, then why can't you agree that Trump the traitor needs to be impeached? Awful and unlawful are two different animals. Awful behavior is impeachable, especially when there is over whelming evidence of obstruction. Why obstruct when you're innocent? What Trump is doing far surpasses Watergate and Clinton's dalliances in the White House. Read the Mueller report.
Clinton was not impeached because of a feckless Senate, and Trump will not be impeached because of a feckless Senate on steroids. It's a despicable mentality and our country deserves better.
Popularity? Nope. It was severely damaged. It was so damaged that Al Gore saw Clinton as a political liability in 2000 and asked his own President to stay out of the campaign.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You were likely a kid back then. Get filled in on the topic before responding to me again. Pick up a damn book for once and take a little time away from Trump worshipping.
Are you talking about the same Clinton whose wife was Defeated by Trump? LAWL. Pollsters are for chumps and the TDS afflicted.
(it really has to be seen to be believed)
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Al Gore and the Democrats wanted nothing to do with Clinton in 2000. Don't need a crooked pollster to explain that.
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You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You were likely a kid back then. Get filled in on the topic before responding to me again. Pick up a damn book for once and take a little time away from Trump worshipping.
Ad Hominem Name calling means you don't have argument.
It takes two-thirds of the Senate to find an impeached President guilty. The GOP had 55 Senate seats, so 20 Democrats would have to vote “Guilty” for Clinton to be found guilty.
Yes Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress, and rightfully so. No he wasn't convicted because of partisan vote. Yes it's feckless. I think you and I can agree on that, but I have a question for you. If you agree that Clinton deserved to be impeached, then why can't you agree that Trump the traitor needs to be impeached? Awful and unlawful are two different animals. Awful behavior is impeachable, especially when there is over whelming evidence of obstruction. Why obstruct when you're innocent? What Trump is doing far surpasses Watergate and Clinton's dalliances in the White House. Read the Mueller report.
Clinton was not impeached because of a feckless Senate, and Trump will not be impeached because of a feckless Senate on steroids. It's a despicable mentality and our country deserves better.
once again obstruction is a SECONDARY offense, not a primary one. unless there is a primary crime, you cannot file charges for obstruction since there is nothing to obstruct.
trump fired comey for good reason, and was well with in his legal right and authority to do so. in fact trump fired comey on the advice of rosenstein. as for the rest, trump cooperated with the mueller investigation fully. he never claimed executive privilege, he and his team turned over all the documents mueller requested, trump even answered muellers questions. so where is the obstruction?
and if oyu listen to the lying scumbag john dean, then yes what trump did was far worse than what nixon did in the watergate investigations. the problem though is that dean again was lying through his teeth, and had no knowledge of what trump did, had no direct information, etc. in fact he even told congress that he was not a witness of fact.
so trump did nothing that nixon did. trump covered up nothing, and even the mueller report indicates that.
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the Starr Report outlined a case for impeaching Clinton on 11 grounds, including perjury, obstruction of justice, witness-tampering, and abuse of power
After nearly 14 hours of debate, the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You were likely a kid back then. Get filled in on the topic before responding to me again. Pick up a damn book for once and take a little time away from Trump worshipping.
One Democratic fund-raiser who knows both men said, ''It's worse than you think, worse than it was last year.'' Even then, things weren't so hot. On the day Mr. Gore formally declared his candidacy in June 1999, ABC News broadcast an interview with the vice president in which Mr. Gore repeatedly distanced himself from the president, voicing disappointment over Mr. Clinton's behavior with Monica S. Lewinsky, the White House intern with whom he had an affair.
Several of Mr. Gore's friends, however, not only acknowledged the chill but said the vice president's relationship with Mr. Clinton never fully recovered from the scandal, because he felt betrayed by the lies, compromised by the recklessness and upset by the behavior, particularly as the father of young women near Ms. Lewinsky's age.
Some of Mr. Gore's closest friends speak of the president with extravagant, open disdain, especially Mr. Peretz, who is already on record as having referred to Mr. Clinton as ''loathesome.''
But, former White House aides recall, it was Mrs. Clinton who drove the first wedge between the two. Even before the election, her loyalists began jockeying to protect her position as first adviser -- and even tried to kick Mr. Gore off the bus, though he refused to budge.
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