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Old 07-24-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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Almost everything republicans did from 2008 to 2016 was motivated by trying to hurt Obama. The GOP wanted to make his presidency as difficult as possible.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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I demand other people take care of me!!!
Pound sand.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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15,000 people died from lack of medical care. I doubt. Many hospitals and doctors provide free medical care for indigents even when they have stage 4 cancer.
As of a 2009 study 45,000 people a year on average died because of a lack of healthcare access. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...alth-coverage/

A lack of access to regular, routine care tends to lead to problems not being addressed until they are more serious and life threatening.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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First off, that article and web site is a farce and is sponsored by those with a very specific agenda = part of the loony fringe called utilitarianism. Mostly seems to be the premise that the US should pay for the worlds issues.

Secondly, The data cited is more than 10 years old and very biased to make the numbers work out. US Corporate taxes recently went from second highest in the world (and highest effective rate) to about average but it is still higher than most of European countries - not really corporate wellfare.

Thirdly, it is pretty funny that someone from Toronto Canada thinks they should have a say in US tax law.
$29 trillion was spent bailing out corporate America. https://www.cnbc.com/id/45674390

And yet providing basic healthcare access like every other developed country of the world is a problem?
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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15K Americans died so Republican governors could stick it to Obama.
They should erect a wall with everyone names carved on it, so we can remember the victims.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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but its not free money...it costs the state..and the individual taxpayers




your state NC... Gov. Cooper want to expand Medicaid....it would cost $6 billion over the next two years, which represents a 28% percent increase in Medicaid spending and a roughly 8% increase in total state spending.


Among the 37 states that have expanded Medicaid in accordance with Obamacare, cautionary tales about its affordability abound. CNN contributor John Kasich, for example, expanded Medicaid in accordance with Obamacare when he was governor of Ohio. He did so over the objections of Republicans in the state legislature. Only eighteen months after the Kasich-backed expansion took effect, Ohio’s Medicaid program was $1.5 billion over budget.
Medicaid costs in Ohio rose 35% from $18.9 billion in fiscal year 2013, the beginning of Kasich’s second term as governor, to $25.7 billion in 2017, when Kasich left office. The following numbers highlight how Medicaid spending is growing at a rapid clip nationwide, both in states that expanded the program and those that did not:
  • Total state Medicaid spending has grown 88% over the past decade, more than double the rate of growth for total state spending, which rose 40% during that same period.
  • Medicaid was already the largest category of state spending a decade ago, and today the program consumes an even greater share of state spending. In 2017, Medicaid consumed more than 29% of total state spending, up from a little over 20% in 2008.
  • To put that in perspective, the share of total state spending now going toward Medicaid is more than 42% larger than it was only a decade ago.
  • Medicaid spending, in addition to being the largest category of spending, has grown at a much faster rate than all other areas of state spending, including education, public safety, and infrastructure.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick.../#5866272c2ee8








btw
North Carolina, named by CNBC last week as the nation’s best economy...there is another budget surplus in North Carolina. This surplus comes even after the final round of personal and corporate income tax cuts took effect at the beginning of this year over the objections of Governor Cooper.




expand mediciad, and you kiss that surplus away


nope, not free money
Those of us with a basic understanding of government and economics predicted all of this a while ago. RINOs like Kasich were happy to go along if it made them more liked by the left, though. What a disgrace that man is. On top of all of the above, Kasich was happy to have Hillary Clinton running the country if it meant no Trump, which tells me all I need to know and is probably why he is working for the Clinton News Network now.
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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The pro life party, amirite?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ion-obamacare/

In other words, just because it came from an Democratic president—and because it came from that Democratic president—these governors violated one of the fundamental tenets of state government that date back to the dawn of human greed: they refused FREE MONEY!"
There is no such thing as FREE MONEY!
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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. Most of the poor cannot afford "family planning," or get a decent education that might help them avoid pregnancy.
How much education does it take to know what causes pregnancy?
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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As of a 2009 study 45,000 people a year on average died because of a lack of healthcare access. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...alth-coverage/

A lack of access to regular, routine care tends to lead to problems not being addressed until they are more serious and life threatening.
Even those who have some insurance are foregoing pre-emptive care due to costs...….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja.../#709700bd6f57

https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/1-in-4...ant-afford-it/

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...-bills/530679/


….. only in America.
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Even those who have some insurance are foregoing pre-emptive care due to costs...….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja.../#709700bd6f57

https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/1-in-4...ant-afford-it/

https://www.theatlantic.com/business...-bills/530679/


….. only in America.
And as I have pointed out to many, including my coworkers, when you get something serious enough you can't keep working, you'll lose that insurance too. It's a terrible system.
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