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View Poll Results: Is Donald Trump a white supremacist?
Yes. Donald Trump is a white supremacist. 65 27.31%
No. Donald Trump is not a white supremacist. 173 72.69%
Voters: 238. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-09-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Originally Posted by AguaDulce View Post
white supremacist: a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races

I think he is. It's just my opinion. It's not the kind of thing one can prove.

What is your opinion?
If that is the common understanding, and it is a pretty mild one dealing only with beliefs and not actions, I would say that Trump is, indeed, a white supremacist. One's beliefs don't have to be reflected in actions, like his father marching with the KKK. It can be more subtle. Trump was immersed in white supremacy as a kid and growing up he knew nothing other than privilege associated with wealth and whiteness. We know that he acted against minorities in his real estate dealings - revealed in public records. One could argue that he is "only" a racist but his ambivalence and tacit support for white supremacists (David Duke, Charlottesville NAZIs) challenges that idea.

 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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Well by that reasoning most of the world is racist and doesn't allow mass immigration of other races and cultures into their countries. I see it as racist and wrong to open the border to people who had no relation or connection whatsoever to the native population.
That's an interesting perspective.

May I ask, are you an immigrant? I wondered because of your writing style.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:36 PM
 
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If that is the common understanding, and it is a pretty mild one dealing only with beliefs and not actions, I would say that Trump is, indeed, a white supremacist. One's beliefs don't have to be reflected in actions, like his father marching with the KKK. It can be more subtle. Trump was immersed in white supremacy as a kid and growing up he knew nothing other than privilege associated with wealth and whiteness. We know that he acted against minorities in his real estate dealings - revealed in public records. One could argue that he is "only" a racist but his ambivalence and tacit support for white supremacists (David Duke, Charlottesville NAZIs) challenges that idea.
Thanks for your reply.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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That's an interesting perspective.

May I ask, are you an immigrant? I wondered because of your writing style.
No I'm not an immigrant. Are you? I have very deep ancestry in America.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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One's beliefs don't have to be reflected in actions, like his father marching with the KKK.

This statement is just more fake news...


From Snopes (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...ther-kkk-1927/)
According to a New York Times article published in June 1927, a man with the name and address of Donald Trump’s father was arraigned after Klan members attacked cops in Queens, N.Y.
In 1927, Donald Trump’s father would have been 21 years old, and not yet a well-known figure. Multiple sources report his residence at the time — and throughout his life — at the same address.
To be clear, this is not proof that Trump senior — who would later go on to become a millionaire real estate developer — was a member of the Ku Klux Klan or even in attendance at the event. Despite sharing lawyers with the other men, it’s conceivable that he may have been an innocent bystander, falsely named, or otherwise the victim of mistaken identity during or following a chaotic event.
A person answering calls at the N.Y.C. Police Department’s Records Section said that arrest reports dating that far back were not available in any form.


 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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Such a sad topic. Trump’s not evil. He’s just ignorant.
Trump is not ignorant. He knows exactly what he is doing....divide and conquer.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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white supremacist: a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races

I think he is. It's just my opinion. It's not the kind of thing one can prove.

What is your opinion?


How can someone be orange and a white supremacist?
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...iolini/595543/

According to the article, if he is or isn't the train has left the station and the problem is growing / with violence.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Japan
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...iolini/595543/

According to the article, if he is or isn't the train has left the station and the problem is growing / with violence.
The crazy train in question is the movement to portray Trump, and all those who support him, as white supremacists who want to bring back Jim Crow. I don't think nearly enough people will board this train to secure a Democratic win in 2020.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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No I'm not an immigrant. Are you? I have very deep ancestry in America.
No, sorry. Didn't mean to offend.
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