Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It was a low-blow and upsetting, but the fact that Biden didn't defend himself well and attack Castro back for clearly lying was equally disappointing. If he is the nominee that faces Trump, there will be all kinds of low blows and lies thrown his way. He needs to display the scrappy, Scranton demeanor/personality he once had. Sadly, I think at his age (no fault of his own), it is gone for good.
Kamala Harris, Castro, and DeBlasio have all wrongfully attacked Joe really hard on the debate stage, and unfortunately, he looked pretty weak. No real fight back or defense. There's only so much we can feel sorry for Biden and say it was unfair or low blows. Biden needs to defend himself out there.
Agreed Biden does need to have sharp responses when others on stage attack, but most likely it will not make or break his chance for the nomination.
I really don't care for the personal jabs because it isn't professional.
Last edited by Wintergirl80; 09-13-2019 at 01:11 PM..
Didn’t you know by now that the American flag seriously triggers democrats who are deeply ashamed of America and any symbol that stands for it?
Anything that symbolizes patriotism or American values like our anthem, our flag, the words nationalism, sovereignty, or patriotism will inflame and trigger democrats now.
And the words MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is downright vulgar profanity to Dems.— and justifies hatred, harassment and violence.
The rest of us should feel ashamed and deplorable if not woke enough to be triggered by the same.....
Oh please. This deification of patriotism is so overblown and insincere it makes my eyes water. No other country is so obsessed with the idea of patriotism and the notion that not being so makes a citizen unworthy of being in their country. And if your idea of something that stands for America is Donald Trump and his corrupt brand of greed which includes the ridiculous MAGA (remember the $40 Chinese hats?), I absolutely refuse to worship such a man and symbol. Never mind the fact that people shouldn't be worshiping cloth anyway, especially if they profess to be Christian.
This is the copy-paste of post that was deleted, together with the entire thread, for the reasons unknown.
I tend to write longer posts in Word
Watched the whole debate.
Last time, Bernie said: I wrote the damn bill. And thus he became a – probably – unintentional - trendsetter for the presidential debating to follow.
So, this short sentence became a sort of a theme yesterday - candidates seemed to talk more about their own experience than anything else. There were fewer attacks. The only really cringy moment was when Castro tried to emphasize Biden's senility. This will surely backfire since everybody shares a certain ew feeling about it.
Yang is my guy, but in this debate, I liked Klobuchar's performance best. People say she's not loud enough, not assertive enough, but I don't get it: what should she have done - jump on a pulpit Beto-style or what. For someone who doesn't know about her work, and this may be the majority of Americans too, the impression is that this person knows what she is talking about and has quite an impressive experience in politics plus she seems level-headed.
Right behind her is my guy. Some say his freedom dividend giveaway to 10 ppl is gimmicky, I beg to disagree. He wants to gather more information on how UBI impacts everyday life, also to make people more familiar with UBI and, last but not least, somehow to offset all media suppression that has been going on for months and is relentless. He did attract attention, that's for sure. We'll see how it will work, but I predict this move will prove worthwhile.
The rest of his less than 8 minutes was good, too. He was on point, never exceeded his time, never interrupted anyone. I like that he includes democracy dollars.
The third is Bernie. Although he needs to see otorhinolaryngologist yesterday, and although he kept and even somewhat ramped up his permanently angry look, he did fine. I don't think he won many new voters with this, but I'm pretty sure he didn't lose his old ones. True to his style, he smiled only once at that tribal Ramos when he hit him with an absurd question that Bernie cleverly used to explain democratic socialism as he sees it to the public.
Btw. Don't you wish that there were one single Democrat who can summon some cajones to tell Ramos that illegal immigration is – well – illegal. I believe that most Americans, Democrats or Republicans are irritated by the hostage situation in which the politics of the left has found itself, and in which nobody dares to say – come on ppl, we need to enforce the law. This is one of the reasons Cheeto Benito won the election.
So those are the top three in my opinion.
Warren is No 4, standard performance. Only this time she didn't have thundersticks in the audience like for that climate town hall. So, no thunder applause. LOL.
Major Pete has a few good moments, the best one when he talks about his coming out, again. He's milking it still, and it would be even better if there wasn't Bernie on the same stage. The same guy who didn't allow Conservatives in Congress to insult gays in the army. In the nineties. I like Bernie. Even if his head is all over the place, his heart is and was in the right place.
Funny enough, Biden is 6th in my opinion, mostly for the first part which he didn't fumble.
Still can't decide who looks and sounds faker to me, Beto or Booker.
The only one who takes the fake even further is Kamala. Although I must say, this performance was a little better than the ones before which were terrible.
Castro doesn't seem like a good guy either. His dig at Biden shows it. He didn't do bad for the rest of the debate. It's just that Don't you remember, repeated twice, that's stuck with everybody, and I don't think that ppl will let it go.
Last edited by switchtoecig; 09-13-2019 at 02:06 PM..
Reason: typos
I’m still watching it, but so far I’d scratch Bernie and Biden. Those two old farts gotta go.
Klobuchar seems knowledgeable, but she’s not resonating.
Petebutt did OK
Elizabeth Warren is doing well, I think. In her favor, she seems like everyone’s favorite kindergarten teacher. Booker is less annoying than Harris, but they’re both race baiters.
Anyone who speaks Spanish annoys me. This is English speaking America.
Beto wasn’t bad, but he’s not the guy.
Yang was pretty good.
Winner tonight..Warren or Yang
I completely agree. Biden's continued popularity mystifies me. He is way past his prime and not eloquent enough. Agree with you on Booker and Harris. But remember The US has no official language. So a Spanish speaker is by no means a dealbreaker. In fact, bilingual candidates might sway people who are on the fence about voting Dem (blood red Texas anyone?)
I completely agree. Biden's continued popularity mystifies me. He is way past his prime and not eloquent enough. Agree with you on Booker and Harris. But remember The US has no official language. So a Spanish speaker is by no means a dealbreaker. In fact, bilingual candidates might sway people who are on the fence about voting Dem (blood red Texas anyone?)
For many centric voters, Biden has strong appeal. He is the one democratic candidate that is not jumping to the very far left, like most of the party has. Even in most of his answers, he is clearly the least "progressive."
I am an Independent, and a spry and energetic Biden (from a few years back) would definitely get my vote. But honestly, in all 3 debates, I can't understand how anyone can say with a straight face that he did fine. He fumbled with his words, thoughts, had gaffes, and got brutally attacked without a comeback from Harris, Castro, Booker, and DeBlasio.
I really like Biden, and it is of no fault of his own, but it seems as if he's just not fully prepared for the stage at this stage of his career. A shame because on ideology, no other democrats really excite me.
For many centric voters, Biden has strong appeal. He is the one democratic candidate that is not jumping to the very far left, like most of the party has. Even in most of his answers, he is clearly the least "progressive."
I am an Independent, and a spry and energetic Biden (from a few years back) would definitely get my vote. But honestly, in all 3 debates, I can't understand how anyone can say with a straight face that he did fine. He fumbled with his words, thoughts, had gaffes, and got brutally attacked without a comeback from Harris, Castro, Booker, and DeBlasio.
I really like Biden, and it is of no fault of his own, but it seems as if he's just not fully prepared for the stage at this stage of his career. A shame because on ideology, no other democrats really excite me.
Biden has strong name recognition and is more centrist, I think that is a lot of his appeal. I keep saying the country isn't ready for this far far left agenda that the other candidate are pushing.
Biden is beginning to make a fool of himself. I say that not as a dig, but his age, or whatever it is isn't doing him any favors. I watched an interview clip of him a few weeks back and he rambled on about something for 3 or 4 minutes and didn't say a damn thing.
Go home and enjoy the grandkids, with all due respect.
For many centric voters, Biden has strong appeal. He is the one democratic candidate that is not jumping to the very far left, like most of the party has. Even in most of his answers, he is clearly the least "progressive."
I am an Independent, and a spry and energetic Biden (from a few years back) would definitely get my vote. But honestly, in all 3 debates, I can't understand how anyone can say with a straight face that he did fine. He fumbled with his words, thoughts, had gaffes, and got brutally attacked without a comeback from Harris, Castro, Booker, and DeBlasio.
I really like Biden, and it is of no fault of his own, but it seems as if he's just not fully prepared for the stage at this stage of his career. A shame because on ideology, no other democrats really excite me.
There's also Amy Klobuchar, but she hasn't yet built enough of a following, it appears.
Seems to me even from our fellow Democrats, they have no one that is a strong leader in the Primaries.
No one that jumps out and get's them excited. No one that motivates them to get out the vote.
So far all I read is... well they were just OK. No Obama. Not even a Hillary to get them excited.
I just can't see the American people being down with the policies they are pushing, I mean medical coverage for illegals, decriminalizing the border? WTH???
I just can't imagine too many people saying, "Yeah, let's give people here illegally medical benefits." Just doesn't make any sense.
My FIL who has since passed was a 50 year union electrician, dyed in the wool, toe tag democrat. He's been dead for a few years now and I can't imagine what he would think of what the democratic party is turning into.
He's was a Latino man and his family was from Mexico, BTW.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
