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Old 09-30-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Authority, no. Ability, sometimes.
Please elaborate on how, exactly, the VP has this ability in and of his own accord.
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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Please elaborate on how, exactly, the VP has this ability in and of his own accord.
So here we are, forty pages into a thread, and you still have no idea what the thread is about!



THE VP HIMSELF SAID THAT HE HAD THAT ABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE'S A VIDEO RECORDING OF HIM SAYING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Why would you presume that?
If you're saying Biden didn't have the authority to make aid conditional on actions done by another country bc it wasn't in the appropriations bill, then that would also apply to Trump who did the same for aid going to S & C American countries...
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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So here we are, forty pages into a thread, and you still have no idea what the thread is about!



THE VP HIMSELF SAID THAT HE HAD THAT ABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE'S A VIDEO RECORDING OF HIM SAYING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, I'm well aware of what this thread is about. I'm asking you to cite how the VP has the ability to do this on his own.

You won't find it, because the simple truth is that a VP cannot withhold aid to a foreign nation on his own. He doesn't control anything in that context.
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:14 AM
 
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If you're saying Biden didn't have the authority to make aid conditional on actions done by another country bc it wasn't in the appropriations bill, then that would also apply to Trump who did the same for aid going to S & C American countries...
No sh*t. And so what?

I was replying to someone who said Biden couldn't have had a corrupt motive for the quid-pro-quo because it wasn't his decision. But Biden said it was.
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats can send letters pressuring the government of Ukraine for information on Trump.. they did this for two long years.


Letter to Ukraine .


https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/m...estigation.pdf
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:17 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Now Trump apparently is caught using the husband and wife legal (that is a kind word) team of Joe diGenova and Victoria Tensing who are also involved in this Ukraine blackmail scheme
Big conspiracy supporters and apparently working w/o any oversight of Trump’s aides, the DoS or DoJ to do Trump’s bidding...
Because almost no one knew they were doing this for Trump
Those people love to live on TV—and are about as ditzy as even Trump could hope for...
Trump has a right to outside counsel and hiring outsiders to work for him and the US Govt.

Have you seen where the Dems have hired outside counsel - The Lawfare Group - to work the Impeachment? One was the lawyer who Questioned Cory L for 30 minutes.

They are the same people who wrote the Complaint.
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No, I'm well aware of what this thread is about. I'm asking you to cite how the VP has the ability to do this on his own.
That's a question for Biden. And that should be investigated. Trump's actions are legit. He's the head of the Executive Branch (under which falls the DOJ, FBI, etc.) and he was acting under authority of the Treaty with the Ukraine Bill Clinton signed into effect.

Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump has a right to outside counsel and hiring outsiders to work for him and the US Govt.

Have you seen where the Dems have hired outside counsel - The Lawfare Group - to work the Impeachment? One was the lawyer who Questioned Cory L for 30 minutes.

They are the same people who wrote the Complaint.
The democrats think that Trump having a lawyer makes him guilty.. after two years of witch hunt , who wouldn't have a lawyer?
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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The democrats think that Trump having a lawyer
....
conduct shadow foreign policy and extorting the leaders of other nations for political gain of the president at the expense of the civil rights of American citizens
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makes him guilty.. after two years of witch hunt , who wouldn't have a lawyer?
You left out the bolded part.
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