Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-10-2019, 09:49 PM
205
 
518 posts, read 449,075 times
Reputation: 720

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
Apparently the left supports fascistic Pelosi declaring impeachment instead of voting on it. She and her enablers are bigger tyrants than Trump could ever hope to be.
The Constitution says that impeachment is a matter for the House of Representatives. Representatives as in plural...not the House of Representative (singular) i.e. by fiat of Pelosi (or Schiff) herself/himself.

The White House has every constitutional right to demand an interpretation and ruling from the Supreme Court on this if they so choose. Seeing as the House of Representatives is more than just Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler it's logical to conclude that the Supreme Court will rule that the full House of Representatives would need to be included in any "impeachment inquiry". In other words, a vote of the full House to start an official impeachment inquiry is the only logical way to include the "House of Representatives" and not at the whim of three Trump hating members (without regard to the other 432 members) in such a process.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-10-2019, 09:58 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
17,638 posts, read 6,918,695 times
Reputation: 16543
Quote:
Originally Posted by 205 View Post
The Constitution says that impeachment is a matter for the House of Representatives. Representatives as in plural...not the House of Representative (singular) i.e. by fiat of Pelosi (or Schiff) herself/himself.

The White House has every constitutional right to demand an interpretation and ruling from the Supreme Court on this if they so choose. Seeing as the House of Representatives is more than just Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler it's logical to conclude that the Supreme Court will rule that the full House of Representatives would need to be included in any "impeachment inquiry". In other words, a vote of the full House to start an official impeachment inquiry is the only logical way to include the "House of Representatives" and not at the whim of three Trump hating members (without regard to the other 432 members) in such a process.
205, I don't think I've read a post of yours that's been wrong.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 10:30 PM
205
 
518 posts, read 449,075 times
Reputation: 720
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
205, I don't think I've read a post of yours that's been wrong.
Trump may act like a buffoon but he's done a good job considering all the insanity perpetrated against him using the full power of the Deep State swamp and an unhinged insane Democratic party who is clueless about the actual Constitution.

These clowns are actually trying to make the claim that the Constitution gives the Speaker of the House the sole power to start an impeachment inquiry. They are basically trying to make the argument that Pelosi as Speaker of the House IS the "House of Representatives" referred to in the Constitution.

They think they are more clever than those silly past two House of Representatives that held impeachment inquiry votes in the Clinton and Nixon impeachments. Who knew the Speaker of the House alone had the sole power to start an impeachment inquiry all along.

Think about how clueless or more likely how brazenly disingenuous and dishonest you have to be to make the argument they are making.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 10:58 PM
 
18,561 posts, read 7,378,460 times
Reputation: 11376
Quote:
Originally Posted by silibran View Post
You do not order people not to cooperate or testify, if their testimony would exonerate you.
No one's testimony can exonerate Trump. His crime was winning the election.

There's no reason to cooperate with a kangaroo court. Cooperation only lends it legitimacy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:03 PM
 
18,561 posts, read 7,378,460 times
Reputation: 11376
Quote:
Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Yes
It is sad when Republicans really would support Trump after all he has done to dissolve the GOP’s core values and destroy the Constitution
Trump has been more faithful to the Constitution than Obama and Bush. There has not been a single accusation of any unconstitutional behavior. There's just a stupid and totally false talking point that Trump is "destroying the Constitution". And the "core values" thing -- what are you talking about? You mean dedication to losing gracefully like McCain and Romney who didn't even try to beat Obama?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
19,719 posts, read 16,850,938 times
Reputation: 41863
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
Good. Screw the hateful, lying, do-nothing Democrats and the people who support their treason.

And you somehow think Trump is not the problem here, huh ? Hitler would be jealous of the blind allegiance some Trumpees have for their God.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-10-2019, 11:31 PM
205
 
518 posts, read 449,075 times
Reputation: 720
Quote:
Originally Posted by don1945 View Post
And you somehow think Trump is not the problem here, huh ? Hitler would be jealous of the blind allegiance some Trumpees have for their God.

The blind allegiance here is from Trump haters who openly support 3rd world banana republic tactics of guilty until proven innocent. Democrats are the ones "breaking norms" (i.e. calling for getting rid of the Electoral College, judge stacking of the Supreme Court, decriminalizing illegal immigration and giving them freebies paid on the backs of taxpaying citizens (including LEGAL immigrant citizens), impeaching Supreme Court judges they don't like, support the weaponization of intelligence agencies against a duly elected president.

Trump haters are constantly making ridiculous comparisons of Trump and Hitler while leftists and other Trump haters engage in behavior that would make Stalin proud. After all, it was a high level official in Stalin's government who coined the phrase "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" which is the entire basis of the left's "Orange Man Bad!!" justification for using Stalinesque tactics to constantly investigate "the man" (Trump) until they one day they might find a crime. After all, leftists are actually brazen enough to admit that he must be removed from office because he's a "bad person". Since he's a bad person, he must be guilty of a crime. Russia Russia Russia ironically is the way leftists have used the very same country to get back to their Soviet/Communist style roots. The irony of that fact is lost on you guys however.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-11-2019, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
33,548 posts, read 37,151,051 times
Reputation: 14006
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
If impeaching Trump is so overwhelmingly popular, why can't the Demotraitors hold a vote on opening a formal inquiry?
Why should they? Does the FBI have a vote before they investigate wrong doing? It's an investigation to find out if there is evidence of wrong doing and the vote will happen if they find that that evidence.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-11-2019, 01:11 AM
205
 
518 posts, read 449,075 times
Reputation: 720
Quote:
Originally Posted by sanspeur View Post
Why should they? Does the FBI have a vote before they investigate wrong doing? It's an investigation to find out if there is evidence of wrong doing and the vote will happen if they find that that evidence.
The Democrats can "investigate" until they are blue in the face but don't lie to the American public like Pelosi, Nadler, etc did by calling what they're doing an "impeachment inquiry". Furthermore, stop pretending that the president is "obstructing justice" by using his constitutional protected right to use executive privilege by ignoring the letters being sent by Democrats and acting like legal subpoenas are being ignored. They aren't.

The White House is using every constitutionally allowed means including appeals and stays to fight back just as previous administrations have. Democrats are telling anyone dumb enough to believe them that this IS an impeachment inquiry despite it not being one. They want the drama and theatrics of an impeachment inquiry without the due process and the participation of Republicans that a true impeachment inquiry would require.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-11-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
57,315 posts, read 26,228,587 times
Reputation: 15648
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9 View Post
Trump has been more faithful to the Constitution than Obama and Bush. There has not been a single accusation of any unconstitutional behavior. There's just a stupid and totally false talking point that Trump is "destroying the Constitution". And the "core values" thing -- what are you talking about? You mean dedication to losing gracefully like McCain and Romney who didn't even try to beat Obama?
If he wants to be faithful to the constitution he could start by not blocking subpoenas so we can get to the truth, I haven't heard many legal scholars support his obstruction. His WH Counsels letter was criticized and seemed to be based more on opinion rather than law.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — Law classmates of White House Counsel Pat Cipollone sent him a letter on Thursday, claiming his decision to block material and witnesses from the House impeachment inquiry "distorts the law and the Constitution," according to a copy of the letter obtained by NBC News.
"We are sorry to see how your letter to the congressional leadership flouts the traditions of rigor and intellectual honesty that we learned together," said the letter from members of the class of 1991 at the University of Chicago Law School.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...cking-n1064821
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:31 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top