Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:40 PM
 
17,874 posts, read 16,000,590 times
Reputation: 11662

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
Please explain how it is morally superior to force other people to pay for the goods and services at an above fair market rate?

The disgusting and morally corrupt person supporting slavery is you! Look into a mirror please.
I am sure most people want much more than MW for any job even entry level low skilled. If the owner is not willing to pay, then the owner should just do himself. He will save himself money, hence make more money.

If owner cannot perform task he must hire someone or let that task fall by the wayside. So tell me more about this "fair market rate". And illegals dont count because they are not suppose to be here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:41 PM
 
8,104 posts, read 3,968,950 times
Reputation: 3070
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
I have no doubt you'd support bringing back indentured servitude and child labor if you could get away with it.

Angry boomers have no idea who much worse the "good ole days" they want to take our country back to were in a lot of ways.
Life Explorer said he would have no problem selling diamonds in this country that were mined by kid slaves in Africa in another thread in the past.
Not his country, not his problem.
So it cuts to the heart of his philosophy.
It is not about going against evil practices or supporting good policies or even free market capitalism.

It is all about making money and if evil is involved in the process, it is ok as well if that part is outside the country.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:49 PM
 
8,104 posts, read 3,968,950 times
Reputation: 3070
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
I did in college and it's insane that's still what the same store pays well over a decade later despite the fact everything is significantly more expensive now than it was back then.
There was a push by some for $15 / hr a decade ago.
Here we are, a decade later. COL has gone up but wages are the same.
In another decade, it will still be $7.25 / hr if it was up to them.

COL would continue to go up.
Those people to make ends meet would have live 10 to a room like in the ghettos and favelas in Brazil.

Would these misers blame themselves for this ghetto creation they created?


Nope, blame it on the liberals or anyone else, not their problem.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:49 PM
 
182 posts, read 94,782 times
Reputation: 232
Quote:
Originally Posted by 509 View Post
Limit immigration.

That will raise the minimum wage without any governmental action needed.
We have a over-supply of cheap, uneducated labor. It brings down the entire wage structure for lower income Americans.

One major reason low-income wages went up under Trump were the restrictions on immigration. The great economy helped particular in blue-collar jobs, but we have great economic periods before and wages did NOT go up due to mass immigration.

I agree, most regulations stagnate wages. But immigration laws need to be followed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:52 PM
 
8,305 posts, read 3,826,955 times
Reputation: 5920
Quote:
Originally Posted by 556senditTX View Post
If I were president, I would have asked congress to enact a gradient minimum wage based on the states GDP and COL. States with higher GDP and COL would have a higher base, and states with lower GDP and COL would have a lower base.
Fortunately you aren't President. Your liberal big-government policies would destroy America. We need less regulation in federal government... not more. The federal government shouldn't be involved in minimum wage. Leave it to the states and local government.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:56 PM
 
17,874 posts, read 16,000,590 times
Reputation: 11662
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlajos View Post
A high federal minimum wage will almost certainly destroy jobs and make people poorer in parts of the country.
Actually if jobs are destroyed, it will create more feasible ownership opportunity. The owners will have to perform their own tasks, and they can only handle so much business. This will leave many customers with unfulfilled demands. More demand exists means more room for suppliers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
By implementing a minimum wage, anybody who can’t produce more value than the minimum wage would immediately become unemployed!



The minimum wage law is stupid and evil, and so are the people supporting it.
You mean like those owners/investors/speculators that cannot perform the tasks necessary for the business to run/exists, but somehow, someway have all this money to cover startup costs, early stage reserve funds, and wages for essential personnel.

edit, and for some businesses, enough money to buy branding, trademark, and patent fees, and any other legal redtape that allows them to keep some sort of exclusivity of various markets of varying sizes without which business is no feasible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 12:56 PM
 
5,296 posts, read 5,249,821 times
Reputation: 18678
Thats one of the major issues I have with Democrats. They want to sweep their regulations with a broad brush over the entire United States, as if what will work in San Francisco will work the same in Jonesboro, ARK. We dont need government to rule our entire lives the same. Let the states do their job.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 01:03 PM
 
14,798 posts, read 17,727,882 times
Reputation: 9251
Quote:
Originally Posted by J746NEW View Post
How come when we talk about the federal minimum wage going up, they tell us it will only increase the COL.
Yet, when wages stagnate thanks to cheap labor competition overseas, the COL still goes up and many who lost those jobs need to go on welfare and food stamps to now make ends meet?.
Jobs will be destroyed in low cost locales with a Federal Minimum wage of $15. Why do you think only 2% off workers make the federal minimum wage and half of them are under 25?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,123,377 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by 556senditTX View Post
If I were president, I would have asked congress to enact a gradient minimum wage based on the states GDP and COL. States with higher GDP and COL would have a higher base, and states with lower GDP and COL would have a lower base.

Californians brag about their minimum wage, which honestly, factored in with GDP and COL is far less impressive than missouri's.
Why are you guys so focused on COL? How many companies factor in CoL when they set their prices? ZERO. So why are you bent on punishing how far someone makes their dollar stretch based on where they live?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-24-2021, 01:09 PM
 
26,694 posts, read 14,597,424 times
Reputation: 8094
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedtheCat View Post
If you're THAT poor that you can;t afford to buy stuff from companies that pay their workers $7.25 an hour, then your problem is staring at you in the mirror!!!!


If you ever worked a day in your life, you'd be a tad more understanding towards those that do!


Folks like yourself who've been carried their whole lives(kinda parasitic) need to educate themselves to the real world. Those people you look down on, are carrying you-and you don't even realize it!!


Try being a giver or producer, and not just a taker and consumer- just once!! Do some good for a change!!
Good gracious, the stupidity!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top