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Old 12-21-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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The theories try to indicate the building was razed like a normal demolition using high tech military explosives. Then they point to windows blowing out as dust rushes out... Here is your simple answer the building lost its structural integrity because it had a plane flown cockeyed into it. the heat caused the steel to sag enough that a floor fell and created a cascade effect. as a floor compacts on the one beneath it will force the air somewhere... like those puffs of dust at various points in the building. It fell at an expected speed of a failed building.

The supposition was that the neighboring building was untouched ... also not true. it had significant damage, including the landing gear on its roof. I think people are being suspicious in the wrong places...

Cast your gaze to the White House issuing internal warnings to protect staff from a threat. I think they knew something was going to happen and opted to not warn anyone or alert airlines. This is the conspiracy. They wanted to go into Iraq and manufactured a mean as to do so. which was unrelated to 9/11 yet it was still approved.

They wanted to reduce freedoms and get the Patriot Act passed... there were many agendas. but did they deliberately down the buildings...no.
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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They wanted to reduce freedoms and get the Patriot Act passed... there were many agendas. but did they deliberately down the buildings...no.
Is this a compromise to keep anger at a manageable level?
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:25 PM
 
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Yeah, the really stupid people do.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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They wanted to reduce freedoms and get the Patriot Act passed... there were many agendas. but did they deliberately down the buildings...no.
Well, part of it was outsourced, but the contract was still administered in-house because it was an inherently governmental function.

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Old 12-21-2010, 03:32 PM
 
Location: colorado
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Three heavily reinforced steel frame buildings collapsed at free fall speed on 9-11. One of which was not even touched by an airplane, the other 2 had relatively minor damage and fires burning, and were built to withstand multiple air crashes. No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire before in history.

There were molten pools of steel found at the bottom of all 3 buildings that burned for months. Fires produced by the jet fuel did not come close to that required to produce those pools.

The buildings were relatively bare of flammable materials, and were designed to isolate fires.

Who planted the explosives? Well, a security company with ties to Marvin Bush presided over the building for months before 9-11. Occupants reported banks of elevators being made unavailable for use for days at a time, and loud rumbling noises were heard on supposedly vacant floors.

Oh the government lies...
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Three heavily reinforced steel frame buildings collapsed at free fall speed on 9-11. One of which was not even touched by an airplane, the other 2 had relatively minor damage and fires burning, and were built to withstand multiple air crashes. No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire before in history.

There were molten pools of steel found at the bottom of all 3 buildings that burned for months. Fires produced by the jet fuel did not come close to that required to produce those pools.

The buildings were relatively bare of flammable materials, and were designed to isolate fires.

Who planted the explosives? Well, a security company with ties to Marvin Bush presided over the building for months before 9-11. Occupants reported banks of elevators being made unavailable for use for days at a time, and loud rumbling noises were heard on supposedly vacant floors.
Read the report that I believe Popular Mechanics presented. It is in book form. Are you an engineer to say with authority that the report was wrong?
Regardless of your answer I recommend you read that book. It pretty much give you questions based on physics and engineering data. You may read it and come up with your own scientific data and maybe prove them wrong. Popular Mechanics decided to do the research on their own to see what they could find and ended up with to me seems very credible conclusion. Maybe you can prove them wrong, take care.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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How do those qualify as conspiracies?
More than one person planned and executed a crime with the secret agreement that it would be kept secret.
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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GORDON DUFF: GOV. JESSE VENTURA PROVES 9/11 COVER-UP, WILL AMERICA’S GOVERNMENT FALL? : Veterans Today
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Three heavily reinforced steel frame buildings collapsed at free fall speed on 9-11. One of which was not even touched by an airplane, the other 2 had relatively minor damage and fires burning, and were built to withstand multiple air crashes. No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire before in history.

There were molten pools of steel found at the bottom of all 3 buildings that burned for months. Fires produced by the jet fuel did not come close to that required to produce those pools.

The buildings were relatively bare of flammable materials, and were designed to isolate fires.

Who planted the explosives? Well, a security company with ties to Marvin Bush presided over the building for months before 9-11. Occupants reported banks of elevators being made unavailable for use for days at a time, and loud rumbling noises were heard on supposedly vacant floors.
Okay... let's catalog and number the falsehoods in that OP:

1. None of the buildings collapsed at 'freefall speed."

2. The claim that the towers suffered "relatively minor damage" is absurd on its face. They were hit at cruising speed by jumbo jetliners for god's sake.

3. They were not designed to "withstand multiple air crashes." In fact the impact of an aircraft was considered nowhere in their design criteria. Some later calculations showed that they could survive the impact damage of a smaller, slower aircraft... and in fact, both of them survived massive damage for at least long enough for most people to escape. But no one had ever actually modeled the effect of an impact of this magnitude followed by fire on the integrity of any building the size of these three.

4. To this day, no steel skyscraper has ever collapsed solely due to fire. WTCs 1 and two collapsed because they were deliberately crashed into by jetliners, followed by fire. WTC 7 collapsed because it was collaterally impacted by WTC 1, followed by fire. All three suffered the dual insult of massive structural damage and fire.

5. Not a single drop of "molten steel" was ever found anywhere at the WTC site. Not a single gram of "melted steel" was recovered from any of the debris. There was certainly molten and melted metal... mostly aluminum, lead and tin alloys. But no steel. And wood fires (let alone jet fuel fires) are fully capable of melting those other metals.

6. The buildings were filled with flammable materials such as furnishings, wall paneling, stored paper etc. The claim that they were "relatively bare of flammable materials" causes one to ponder... relative to what? A barn full of hay and gasoline?

7. To the extent that they were "designed to isolate fires," those designs envisioned waste paper basket fires and cooking accidents... not the sudden and explosive distribution of thousands of gallons of kerosene across entire floors on multiple levels.

8. There has never been a single trace of any demolition system found anywhere in the rubble or wreckage of the WTC, and any demolition exercise of that magnitude would have left profligate evidence of its presence. To assert that there were explosives in the building is a pure unfounded speculation.

9. The "security company" to which Marvin Bush was connected was fired from their work at the WTC in 1998. More than three years before 9/11.

10. Bush left that company's board in June 2000... more than a year before 9/11.

Not bad... only ten Truther falsehoods in four paragraphs... not even close to a record, but it does honestly cause pause to consider exactly what standards the OP holds for believing in anything.
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Northeast PA
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9/11 was allowed to happen on incompetence alone. With the corruption and lack of accountability in government for letting such an event occur, there is no doubt that the offical government story should be accepted.
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