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Old 01-22-2022, 11:19 AM
 
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Haley/DeSantis or DeSantis/Haley is a nightmare scenario for the Dems. Even with furious propaganda by their PR firm (the mainstream media).

To be honest the Dem disarray is obvious and no telling who will be running for the Dems in 2024. Which (in pre-Biden days) would be an outrageous statement.
Can't stand DeSantis though, so I would vote for whoever the Dem is, sad as that is at this point.
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Old 01-22-2022, 02:30 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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I could support Haley, some don't like her because she dared to not lick Trump's boots and defied him, yet he nominated here anyway and has a good performance record.

Not that it matters but she is of Indian decent, technically not "white", but that only matters to democrats if when a person is a democrat.

I said it before, Trump should not run again, he had his day and made a mark, there are other people that are capable of picking up where he left off that doesn't have as much baggage as Trump does and will garner votes from many independents and moderate democrats and the republicans need those votes to win, there needs to be some common ground coalition against the leftists.

Trump can still be influential to the country without being in office again , but let someone else pick up the torch for president.
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Old 01-22-2022, 02:38 PM
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If the Republican party dumps Trump, will moderate Dems who refute the radical leftists, who now control the DNC, & cross over to vote for the Pub candidate in '24?

Let's say the Republicans candidate is not a Trumpster...like Niki Haley (who says "Trump has no future role in the GOP"):

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/polit...gop/index.html

note: If the RNC dumps Trump, former Trump voters will still vote Republican imho. What are they going to do... vote for a radical leftist liberal Dem? Or, stay home and let the radical left continue their march towards socialism? No way...nearly all of them will vote Pub.
The vocal, easily led left that doesn't watch any local news woke won't look at policy, but the moderates that are educated and can think and DO watch local news usually do. I think there could be a crossover with the educated types. Educated meaning life experience, not degrees.
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Old 01-22-2022, 03:50 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Trump is the republican party!

not enough never trumpers to dump trump. cheney and kinzinger will likely be gone.

They are going to dump the guy who performed miracles, 2 declared by democrats, in every venue of domestic and foreign affairs!!!!!!

The one guy who gave us long sought energy independence, peace in the ME, had iran and putin on their knees economically, raised the standard of living for every demographic, jobs galore, sealed southern border, prison reform, VA reform, strengthened nato much to putin's displeasure, trade deals in our favor!

No other human on earth could have accomplished that and with the media, corrupt dems using false warrants and lies to subvert him and daily claims by the media Trump was guilty of every possible crime that they could imagine???????

Sure find some placeholder candidate that would be half a niothch above Biden and watch the repub party disintegrate just like the democrat party disappeared when the socialists hijacked it.
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Old 01-22-2022, 09:41 PM
 
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If the Republican party dumps Trump, will moderate Dems who refute the radical leftists, who now control the DNC, & cross over to vote for the Pub candidate in '24?

Let's say the Republicans candidate is not a Trumpster...like Niki Haley (who says "Trump has no future role in the GOP"):

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/polit...gop/index.html

note: If the RNC dumps Trump, former Trump voters will still vote Republican imho. What are they going to do... vote for a radical leftist liberal Dem? Or, stay home and let the radical left continue their march towards socialism? No way...nearly all of them will vote Pub.
Of course not, unless republicans run a moderate, which of course they never will. Trump or not, republican priorities are very different. And the left doesn't control the dnc. At least not yet. If they did then Bernie would have been the candidate. There are still many moderates in the party.
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Old 01-22-2022, 10:55 PM
 
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Republicans are cowards when it comes to Trump, so no way this happens.
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:18 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Let's see the the Pubs dump Trump and disavow all of his
"stolen election" crap and then we'll talk.
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:19 PM
 
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"If" One would think that after of over 5 years of "if", some would stop "ifing"!

You haven't paid much attention if you think that that poster has been trying to get rid of Trump for over 5 years .
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:26 PM
 
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Of course not, unless republicans run a moderate, which of course they never will. Trump or not, republican priorities are very different. And the left doesn't control the dnc. At least not yet. If they did then Bernie would have been the candidate. There are still many moderates in the party.

Then why did you vote for Hogan ?
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Old 01-22-2022, 11:42 PM
 
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A moderate will always be better received in both parties because that's where the bulk of their members fall. Unfortunately in recent years both parties have allowed their fringes to be their mouthpiece and talking points. The GOP needs to allow freedom of speech again because now any member speaking outside the party line is publicly lambasted by their peers, AOC may be a left side extreme but her colleges are not lining up in lock-step to repeat her view.

Nike Haley is an impressive candidate and has demonstrated herself well on the world stage, far better than fearless leader or some of his protege's
Stop the B.S. with "moderate" talk. The GOP nominated 2 very moderates and nice people in Dole and Romney and you Democrats destroyed their character like a young ugly weak kid getting beat up in school at lunch everyday.

Nikki Haley is a hack and a neo con like W Bush. Don't let her skirt fool you and the GOP doesn't need to return to the Bush doctrine disguise with a skirt and a tan.

Freedom of speech? yeah, like the Democrat party respects freedom of speech in the party. Ask Joe Lieberman,Geraldine Ferraro, Tulsi Gabbard, Manchin and Sinema to name a few and asked them what happens to people that goes against the party. How many generals Obama fired for a different opinion on foreign policy? Freedom of speech? thanks for the laugh.
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