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Old 01-23-2022, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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For pure theatre it would be swell to have 2024 be MTG vs AOC.
Talk about a battle of the bottom...
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Haley was an ardent Trump loyalist at one time. Be careful of her. She may be putting on a show for Trump's benefit. At the last moment she'll show her true color: ORANGE.
She resigned for a reason.

Thinking she and her handlers perceived she had a better shot at 2024 not being tied to Trump. She previously criticized Trump’s post election behavior.
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well Biden says he's running again so I think you could put anyone up under the R ticket and win.
Just one year into his first term it would be foolish to claim otherwise.
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I highly doubt moderate dems will cross over.

Whomever the R's pick will face the same onslaught of claims of racism, mysoginy, rape etc. that got swung at guys like Biden, Beto and Buttigeig....by the likes of Warren and Harris lol.

I just don't see moderate D's (or R's) crossing over.

Now actual unaffiliated moderates sure could so perhaps that's what the OP means but they can't wrap their heads around everyone not being either D or R.
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Any many Independents like me have no issue splitting a ticket.
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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let's say Nikki Haley who has denounced Trump and said publicly that he has no place in the Republican party in the future.
You didn't say who the D would be.

Assuming he makes it to 2024, and he wants to run again, and he can make it through the primaries again, is Biden the candidate?

If not, who?
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I could support Haley, some don't like her because she dared to not lick Trump's boots and defied him, yet he nominated here anyway and has a good performance record.

Not that it matters but she is of Indian decent, technically not "white", but that only matters to democrats if when a person is a democrat.

I said it before, Trump should not run again, he had his day and made a mark, there are other people that are capable of picking up where he left off that doesn't have as much baggage as Trump does and will garner votes from many independents and moderate democrats and the republicans need those votes to win, there needs to be some common ground coalition against the leftists.

Trump can still be influential to the country without being in office again , but let someone else pick up the torch for president.
A non white female who carefully chooses her rhetoric and does not live on Twitter….
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:28 AM
 
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Hard to imagine which Republican candidate would appeal those who believe in democracy.
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump is the republican party!

not enough never trumpers to dump trump. cheney and kinzinger will likely be gone.

They are going to dump the guy who performed miracles, 2 declared by democrats, in every venue of domestic and foreign affairs!!!!!!

The one guy who gave us long sought energy independence, peace in the ME, had iran and putin on their knees economically, raised the standard of living for every demographic, jobs galore, sealed southern border, prison reform, VA reform, strengthened nato much to putin's displeasure, trade deals in our favor!

No other human on earth could have accomplished that and with the media, corrupt dems using false warrants and lies to subvert him and daily claims by the media Trump was guilty of every possible crime that they could imagine???????

Sure find some placeholder candidate that would be half a niothch above Biden and watch the repub party disintegrate just like the democrat party disappeared when the socialists hijacked it.
What flavor of kool aid is this?

I ask as a 2 x Trump voter who regrets my 2020 vote given Trump’s post 2020 election behavior.
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:39 AM
 
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What flavor of kool aid is this?

I ask as a 2 x Trump voter who regrets my 2020 vote given Trump’s post 2020 election behavior.
I read Kracer's post and wondered what alternate universe this came from.

None of that happened.

By the end of Trump's term in office, we down millions of jobs, $8 trillion more added to the National Debt, losing a trade war with China, ...
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Old 01-23-2022, 05:48 AM
 
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This is tricky.

Trump had followers who had never registered to vote before he ran for president, and likely will never vote again if he's not the candidate.

Add to that, he's managed to convince a significant population of republicans that voting is pointless, and rigged, and their effort to get to the polls and cast their votes will be in vain.

But yes. If someone other than Trump runs on the republican ticket, there will be moderate democrats and libertarians who vote republican.
Agreed.

It also depends on what Trump does in 2024. If Trump runs that means he will burn and tarnish every candidate on stage with him that he views as a threat. Trump is already itching to start with DeSantis and we have 2 years to go.

I can see a scenario where Trump loses the primary but leaves the RNC and the nominee burning in a heap of unelectable ash.
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