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No. They won't. The GOP has a history of running lukewarm RINOs in the hopes of that and it rarely works. It didn't in 2008, it BARELY worked in 2000, didn't work in 1992. The simple answer is they'll stay home. Obama brought in record turnout because people came out of the woodwork to vote for the first black president. They "voted" in record numbers in 2020, because they didn't have to leave their homes (or even fill out their own ballots).
Exactly. I know it is an unimaginable thought to many who post here, but there are a lot of us not married to one party or the other. Give us a candidate who is a strong, qualified leader and a person of good character.
Exactly. I know it is an unimaginable thought to many who post here, but there are a lot of us not married to one party or the other. Give us a candidate who is a strong, qualified leader and a person of good character.
BINGO - this seems to be a novelty to about 80% of the people who post on these forums.
If the Republican party dumps Trump, will moderate Dems who refute the radical leftists, who now control the DNC, & cross over to vote for the Pub candidate in '24?
Let's say the Republicans candidate is not a Trumpster...like Niki Haley (who says "Trump has no future role in the GOP"):
note: If the RNC dumps Trump, former Trump voters will still vote Republican imho. What are they going to do... vote for a radical leftist liberal Dem? Or, stay home and let the radical left continue their march towards socialism? No way...nearly all of them will vote Pub.
Well, I'm a moderate independent not a moderate Dem, but I'd happily consider a sane candidate from the GOP.
I think everyone that posts here knows this. Trump hijacked the Republican party because he saw that there was a ready to use base that could easily be manipulated to swallow his simple minded populist dogma.
Reality is that younger people can't imagine what the old Republican party stood for, back in the day when there was plenty of bipartisan cooperation in Congress and while there were always fundamental disagreements there was never any question that the end of the day the Constitution and the rule of law always came first.
Those days are long gone and it is unlikely we will ever see them again. The extremist Right-wing has worked hard for 40 years to take over the party, and it was just a matter of time before someone like Trump came along to lead them to glory.
Point is that even if Trump went away tomorrow and the "Republicans" found some moderate candidate, everyone now knows the true objective of the party is to once and for all crush opposition and implement an autocracy. It's glaringly obvious to even the most dim-witted American at this point. So it's unlikely many Independents or Centrists will cross over to vote for them.
Trump had followers who had never registered to vote before he ran for president, and likely will never vote again if he's not the candidate.
Add to that, he's managed to convince a significant population of republicans that voting is pointless, and rigged, and their effort to get to the polls and cast their votes will be in vain.
But yes. If someone other than Trump runs on the republican ticket, there will be moderate democrats and libertarians who vote republican.
This is why I think it's a fool's errand to talk about widening the tent if Trump isn't the nominee. Romney increased the vote share for the GOP in 2012 compared to 2008 (which was hardly a guarantee to do) and saw increased turnout in multiple parts of the country. The problem for him was that this voter turnout increase were in states that he was already going to win for the most part.
Trump was able to increase voter turnout in traditional blue wall states and turn Iowa and Ohio decidedly more red. I'm not sure a standard GOP nominee can compete there, especially if they go back to the GOP of old where the party wanted every free trade deal on the books expanded.
As for moderate democrats and libertarians voting republican, I don't see it happening in any larger number than it already happens.
I also point out that Latinos have been polling more toward the GOP in recent times, which can bode well for whoever the GOP nominee is (and I note that Trump increased his share of the Latino vote in 2020 from 2016, which was already an improvement from Romney in 2012, which went against what the pundits were claiming . . . they said Trump would perform historically poorly with Latino voters for a GOP candidate).
The election will be decided by independents, not moderate democrats or independents I'd wager.
For me I need to see the Republican party start to behave more rationally. Right now the party is rife with lunatic concepts that are disturbing to watch.
How so?? What examples do you have? As the party out of power, I see nothing from them. I see lot's of fringe wackiness from D's.
I'm just not seeing what you say.
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