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Old 05-10-2022, 09:42 PM
 
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Why in 2022 is there even a reason for people to get themselves into a position to even consider an abortion?

We can easily prevent pregnancy nowadays.
Seems irresponsibility is the issue.
The only sure proof way to prevent pregnancy is either a tubal ligation or a vasectomy.

 
Old 05-10-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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The only sure proof way to prevent pregnancy is either a tubal ligation or a vasectomy.
Or....don't have sex?

Immaculate conception is scientifically impossible.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 09:46 PM
 
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The numbers say it is irresponsibility accounting for almost all abortions.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 09:52 PM
 
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The woman's a freaking adult. It's her job and her job ONLY to care for herself and her child. If you want to shift the responsibility of providing for the child to pro-lifers, then they get to have a say in whether women are allowed to have sex at all.
You've contradicted yourself about 3 times in your short post. First, some of the people having children are NOT adults. They're children themselves. Kids having kids.

Second, if it's only the woman's responsibility as to what happens, then why are you trying to butt into her decision making?

Third, the responsibility of providing for the unwanted child is ALREADY the responsibility of the taxpayers in a large percentage of the unwanted child births, yet taxpayers have no more say in the matter than we do in telling a fat person or a cigarette smoker that they must change their lifestyle because we're tired of paying for their health related problems. It's actually to your advantage NOT to force women to have children that they don't want and can't provide for.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 09:53 PM
 
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With your logic, there would be no reason for ever wearing a condom or taking birth control pills. After all, the life you're preventing might grow up to be another Einstein.

And speaking of having "ZERO connections", that's precisely what stake YOU have in some woman's decision about her and her family's life situation. Perhaps you should watch out for YOU and let others do the same.

It worked out for you. You Mother didn't denied you life. Here you are deciding the fate of millions and playing God with endless excuses in how easy ending life should be.

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Old 05-10-2022, 10:00 PM
 
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There's no question that there are many challenges and pitfalls awaiting ANY child that is born today, but bringing a child into the world when he/she is unwanted and unable to be provided for only complicates that situation ten-fold.

Would we be better off as a country today if we had the 60 million unwanted children that had been aborted in the past 50 years? I would say "No". It's hard enough to take care of the unwanted and neglected ones that we have already. The newspapers and TV news shows show us daily how SOME of the neglected one turn out. I'm confident that adding another 60 million to the number of unwanted ones would not improve matters any.
Who are you to decide who makes it and who doesn't and who dies and who lives? You only bring the selective negative and ignore the millions who had a chance and lives were cut short because they made it super easy to avoid responsibility in the "it's all about me" culture. You don't know but you hope that their lives would have been a waste to make excuses.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:09 PM
 
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It worked out for you. You Mother didn't denied you life. Here you deciding the fate of millions and playing God with endless excuses in how easy ending life should be.
It's amazing that after all these posts that explain that it's not MY decision to make and not YOUR decision to make, but rather the WOMAN's decision to make yet somehow you still think it's YOUR decision to tell the woman what to do.

How would you feel if someone or some government bureaucrats tried to dictate what YOUR birthing rights were? I'm guessing you wouldn't like that very well, yet you can't see that is exactly what you are trying to do. As the old saying goes, "You don't have a dog in this fight, so what's it to you?"
 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:30 PM
 
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Or....don't have sex?

Immaculate conception is scientifically impossible.
And how would men feel about not having sex. Not very well according to a thread here.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:33 PM
 
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Or....don't have sex?

Immaculate conception is scientifically impossible.
There aren’t many adults that would do that.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:33 PM
 
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You've contradicted yourself about 3 times in your short post. First, some of the people having children are NOT adults. They're children themselves. Kids having kids.
If you're mature enough to have sex and get pregnant, you're mature enough to bear the consequences.

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Second, if it's only the woman's responsibility as to what happens, then why are you trying to butt into her decision making?
The "abortion on demand until the child turns 97" crowd are the ones demanding that pro-lifers pay for the child, not me. By that logic, pro-lifers get a say in whether women get to have sex at all.

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Third, the responsibility of providing for the unwanted child is ALREADY the responsibility of the taxpayers in a large percentage of the unwanted child births, yet taxpayers have no more say in the matter than we do in telling a fat person or a cigarette smoker that they must change their lifestyle because we're tired of paying for their health related problems. It's actually to your advantage NOT to force women to have children that they don't want and can't provide for.
In that case, taxpayers ought to have a say in if women get to have sex at all. Or the mother bears the full cost of the child and we completely abolish all welfare. I don't give a flying rat's ass if you can't provide for them.

Frankly I don't care one way or the other. I'm not paying for it and don't expect me to foot the bill.
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