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Old 05-12-2022, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
It wouldn't be too late if she acted in a responsible way and used birth control. You don't have to make an appointment on the calendar to take a birth control pill every day. You are condoning irresponsible sex by using passion as an excuse and it just doesn't cut it. If a woman is sexually active she should be prepared before her passion kicks in.
Every woman is not you! When will you realize that? I have not seen you or anyone else come up with an idea of how to make an irresponsible person responsible, or how to stop intense passion.

 
Old 05-12-2022, 10:01 AM
 
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I don't know who you think would be telling all pro-choice people to abandon a particular argument? You read that one person said that somewhere and you think it is somehow officially dropped from conversation?
I read someone say it and then I read an article about it. But that would certainly not be enough but I have noticed very few people making that case anymore. The primary case seems to be about control over a woman's body. I have no problem making that argument (I agree that it is a much stronger one for the pro-life position) but I dont want to do it if it hasnt become the position of most pro-choicers these days.

I think one problem with the pro-choice position is that it is not a very palatable one to make. Reality doesnt have to be palatable but it does make the position harder to argue.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Who, what state, is banning abortions?
Ohio, Texas, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi just to name a few that plan to do ban abortion.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 11:56 AM
 
Location: California
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Maybe, but there are other ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Unwanted children, however, will always exist and that's just a sad fact.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:09 PM
 
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Every woman is not you! When will you realize that? I have not seen you or anyone else come up with an idea of how to make an irresponsible person responsible, or how to stop intense passion.
My guess is that the people you are responding to haven't felt "intense passion" in so long that they've forgotten what it felt like. Either that, or the few times in their life that they did feel intense passion, they were rejected by their would-be partner, so they want everyone else to be as miserable and "doing without" as they are.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:18 PM
 
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My guess is that the people you are responding to haven't felt "intense passion" in so long that they've forgotten what it felt like. Either that, or the few times in their life that they did feel intense passion, they were rejected by their would-be partner, so they want everyone else to be as miserable and "doing without" as they are.
Again, if a woman is sexually active she should make sure she is protected ahead of time from her intense passions! Adults also have brains you know not just feelings. Stop making excuses for those who don't use their brains ahead of time instead of making insinuations about others who do use their brains!
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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What happens if that life turns out to be a doctor or scientist or a military leader or a teacher and brings up a family and more lives and saves lives does your Russian roulette fortune cookie with others people's lives worth it for a few hundred dollars a bargain? Funny, that you don't try it in yourself. It's always people that has ZERO connections.

I didn't know people can read an unborn future of people they don't even know. Amazing!
sure some will, but overall we know most unwanted babies mostly growing up with single mothers in poor households are going to be drains on society when they grow up.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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Every woman is not you! When will you realize that? I have not seen you or anyone else come up with an idea of how to make an irresponsible person responsible, or how to stop intense passion.
I'm a man not a woman! Again, when a woman becomes sexually active and doesn't want to get pregnant why doesn't she prepare herself ahead of time for her intense passions? Birth control pills will cover you everday of the week for those who don't know when their intense passions will take over. You and yours never answer that question. You just constantly make excuses for their irresponibility.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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Abortion has given us an aging work force.
no it hasn't.
 
Old 05-12-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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I'm just amazed at how many anti-abortion rights people want "irresponsible people" to be parents...
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