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View Poll Results: Should contraceptives be made illegal
Yes, the purpose of having sexual relations is to produce children 20 12.20%
No, there’s sexual relations for any other reason 144 87.80%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2022, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Did you know contraceptive devices, including condoms, were once illegal?
Did you know abortion was legal until this one guy I think who started big Pharma started to push his weight around.

physicians remained the loudest voice in the anti-abortion debate, and they carried their agenda to state legislatures around the country, advocating not only anti-abortion laws, but also laws against birth control. This movement presaged the modern debate over women's body rights.[37] A campaign was launched against the movement and the use and availability of contraceptives.

Criminalization of abortion accelerated from the late 1860s, through the efforts of concerned legislators, doctors, and the American Medical Association.[38] In 1873, Anthony Comstock created the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice

Connecticut was the first U.S. state to outlaw medicinal abortion after quickening in 1821, followed by 10 of the 26 states creating similar restrictions within 20 years. New York made post-quickening abortions a felony and pre-quickening abortions a misdemeanor in 1829

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Old 06-30-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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I started reading a little about Griswold. Ct. banned contraceptives for married couples right after a Planned Parenthood opened in Hartford. Interesting. At that time, there was only one other state which banned contraceptives(MA). No Red Conservative States?

So how did Ct. enforce this on married couples? A woman would have to go to a doctor, or Planned Parenthood, to get the Pill, but married men wanting to buy condoms? How did they prove to a drug store clerk they were NOT married? Crazy, and unenforceable. Ct. was targeting married women, not men, with this. Make babies for the "Fatherland"?

The purpose of sex is to procreate? Just like the police snooping into bedrooms of gay people, should they do that as well with elderly couples as well? No sex, or marriage, for post menopausal women?

Then there are divorced couples wanting to remarry. The man has had a vasectomy from his previous marriage. You don't think this is a common situation? He cannot get married, or have sex, because he cannot procreate? Yours, Mine, and OURS is a must for remarriage? Hope they make a lot of $$$$.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:24 AM
 
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Did you know abortion was legal until this one guy I think who started big Pharma started to push his weight around.

physicians remained the loudest voice in the anti-abortion debate, and they carried their agenda to state legislatures around the country, advocating not only anti-abortion laws, but also laws against birth control. This movement presaged the modern debate over women's body rights.[37] A campaign was launched against the movement and the use and availability of contraceptives.

Criminalization of abortion accelerated from the late 1860s, through the efforts of concerned legislators, doctors, and the American Medical Association.[38] In 1873, Anthony Comstock created the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice

Connecticut was the first U.S. state to outlaw medicinal abortion after quickening in 1821, followed by 10 of the 26 states creating similar restrictions within 20 years. New York made post-quickening abortions a felony and pre-quickening abortions a misdemeanor in 1829

https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
There is no one more attuned to how barbaric an abortion is in its application than the one performing it, the physician. The same reason many physicians would never perform them as an elective procedure in recent years.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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The thread title and poll questions don’t match. I voted yes but realized the “yes” in the question was about making the illegal. I vote “yes” to the thread title. I bet there are other people making that mistake as well.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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Of course birth control should be legal. But there are some fighting to make it illegal -- first by making it unacceptable and then working up to the banning. Hobby Lobby is a prime example.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:44 AM
 
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Of course birth control should be legal. But there are some fighting to make it illegal -- first by making it unacceptable and then working up to the banning. Hobby Lobby is a prime example.
It is basically a non issue. Democrats are just acting hysterically. Even among evangelicals, nearly 60% think it is not a moral issue and only 4% think it is morally wrong. Yes, hobby lobby seem to be part of the 4%, so don’t shop there. 4%….that is by far a smaller number than democrats who think we should defund the police, which is bringing tons of harm to people.

No one is going to make contraceptives illegal. END THREAD.
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:26 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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It is basically a non issue. Democrats are just acting hysterically. Even among evangelicals, nearly 60% think it is not a moral issue and only 4% think it is morally wrong. Yes, hobby lobby seem to be part of the 4%, so don’t shop there. 4%….that is by far a smaller number than democrats who think we should defund the police, which is bringing tons of harm to people.

No one is going to make contraceptives illegal. END THREAD.
Read Thomas' concurrence.
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:05 PM
 
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Of course birth control should be legal. But there are some fighting to make it illegal -- first by making it unacceptable and then working up to the banning. Hobby Lobby is a prime example.
More misinformation. Show me their attempt to ban or make it illegal.
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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CVS is restricting the amt of Plan B contraceptives people can buy in order to have a " consistent equitable supply."
https://www.necn.com/news/business/m...upply/2767502/
toilet paper.
formula.
Plan B.

are you telling us our hoarding issues are all because of women?
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Old 06-30-2022, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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How the hell could anyone vote yes? I can at least understand if someone is against abortions, but birth control?! Sex is definitely not for just producing children. Extremists from both sides need psychiatric help.
this was the poll where the title of the thread and the actual poll questions were switched.
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