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Old 07-12-2022, 11:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Futuremauian View Post
You have to wonder at how these misguided DAs managed to get through law school with such an obvious lack of common sense? Affirmative Action?

As someone else mentioned upthread, the criminal underclass are not typically voters. To whom are these DAs pandering?
The woke, far too many wokesters in big cities.
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Old 07-12-2022, 11:59 AM
 
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That is gross injustice, while an old man defending himself from a huge aggressive assailant is put in jail and charged.

These "progressive" DAs need to go. One down in San Francisco, will other cities wake up?
Using him as an example of what happens when you fight back. They want you to be a victim and not fight back.
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Old 07-12-2022, 11:59 AM
 
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The Lady who stabbed the Bodega-worker is not being charged, and she started the whole thing, and stabbed the poor man..........how does that spell fair?!?!?!!?!?
We must pity her, as now she needs a new thief to team up with.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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Proportionality, for one. If someone is throwing marshmallows at you, a person is not privileged to shoot the thrower. Immediacy is another. You can't wait to use deadly force.

None of what you mentioned is deadly force. So why use deadly force to defend against such?
Bodegas are tiny. Options are not numerous. No jury will convict, as unlike you, juries understand fully what a tiny NYC bodega is like, with violent customers cornering the employee.

I feel bad that the radical DA is trying him, but it will be the DA's undoing. He will be the next SF style DA-out of a job!
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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Using him as an example of what happens when you fight back. They want you to be a victim and not fight back.
It definitely seems that way.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, it's self defense. "Disparity of force" is the issue that justifies the old guy using a knife in his self defense.

These weren't two young guys getting into a scuffle. It was a young, fit man attacking an older, weaker man. The law doesn't require the old man to wait until he has been beaten to within an inch of his life before taking any action in self defense. The "disparity of force" between the two plus the fact that the young man was clearly the attacker and aggressor in the situation justifies the old man utilizing a weapon to defend himself.

Clearly, there would have been no death or harm to anyone if the young man hadn't attacked the old man. The old man used the knife to stop the attack. A clear case of self defense.
That is unless they're in NYC. Even in New York State people have a duty to retreat in the event of a criminal attack.
What a ****** up state!!!

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www.dailyfreeman.com › 2022/01/31 › bill-aims-to Bill aims to erase ‘duty to retreat’ in New York law – Daily ...
Jan 31, 2022 · New York is one of 12 states that impose a duty to retreat, which requires individuals, when not at home, to try to escape from a confrontation with a person behaving

www.nysenate.gov › newsroom › press-releases Senator Borrello Introduces Legislation to ... - NY State Senate
Jan 27, 2022 · The ‘duty to retreat’ clause, requires New Yorkers to retreat from a violent aggressor when in public before they can defend themselves and their loved ones.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Bodegas are tiny. Options are not numerous. No jury will convict, as unlike you, juries understand fully what a tiny NYC bodega is like, with violent customers cornering the employee.

I feel bad that the radical DA is trying him, but it will be the DA's undoing. He will be the next SF style DA-out of a job!



I hope the Bodega owner sues the ever living snot of of NYC and the DA.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It definitely seems that way.
In New York City and state, it definitely IS that way.

That's because the majority of voters in New York like it that way. They love being ruled by their corrupt politicians.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I hope the Bodega owner sues the ever living snot of of NYC and the DA.
I do too, but the only problem with that is the taxpayers will get stuck paying the bill and Bragg will be hailed as a hero of the Left. With donations pouring in he'll probably end up being a very wealthy man. At the very least they may even elevate him to a judgeship? You're forgetting this is New York. Where right is wrong and wrong is right. I used to live there, nothing would surprise me.
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Old 07-12-2022, 12:42 PM
 
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In New York City and state, it definitely IS that way.

That's because the majority of voters in New York like it that way. They love being ruled by their corrupt politicians.
Sad state of affairs when many in our society willingly want themselves to become victims. It really makes no sense to me.
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