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Old 08-01-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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No one is saying none of them are, just very few. See the CDC report above.

VAERS is not the only source of vaccine safety information.

There is the Vaccine Safety Datalink:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/en...vsd/index.html

Medicare contributes:

https://www.cms.gov/medicare-covid-19-vaccine-analysis

There is v-safe, specifically for the covid vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ety/vsafe.html

The VA, Dept of Defense, and Indian Health Service are also monitoring safety.

The poster I replied to said NO ONE has died as a result of the vaccine. I assume they consider themselves someone.

 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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That is absolutely false.
True.

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Questions raised after fatal motorcycle crash listed as COVID-19 death

A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official.

FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us.

“The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:36 AM
 
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His talking points are 1 year outdated. Now there are plenty of confirmed deaths from Pfizer’s vaccine. Especially since the casualty of the vaccines causing cardiovascular events and disease have been established.
I have found only a few cases, one in New Zealand and one in South Korea, where the death was thought to be caused by Pfizer vaccine. Maybe you have more examples? No where near 26,000; not even close.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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True.

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Questions raised after fatal motorcycle crash listed as COVID-19 death

A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official.

FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us.

“The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said.
From YOUR article:

Earlier this week, the Florida Department of Health sent FOX 35 News a statement that attempted to clarify that a "COVID death" is determined if, "COVID19 is listed as the immediate or underlying cause of death, or listed as one of the significant conditions contributing to death.

...health officials confirm that a motorcycle death that was initially counted among COVID-19 fatalities has been removed from the state's data.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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Here is the vague method of counting COVID deaths straight from the head of the snake (World Economic Forum).

We could be vastly overestimating the death rate for COVID-19. Here's why

Take, for example, a New Yorker who is mildly sick. She calls her family doctor who makes a clinical diagnosis of suspected COVID-19 based on her symptoms, rather than with a test. Because she is not very sick, she is advised to stay home. There is no mechanism for her doctor to report her diagnosis to the health authorities, so if she gets better, she is never counted. Only if she becomes ill enough to be admitted to the hospital, or is tested, is she counted as a COVID-19 case. If she dies, she is counted as a COVID-19 death. If she survives, she will not be counted at all.


No official test necessary. Only assumed symptoms necessary to be considered a COVID death.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:45 AM
 
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From YOUR article:

Earlier this week, the Florida Department of Health sent FOX 35 News a statement that attempted to clarify that a "COVID death" is determined if, "COVID19 is listed as the immediate or underlying cause of death, or listed as one of the significant conditions contributing to death.

...health officials confirm that a motorcycle death that was initially counted among COVID-19 fatalities has been removed from the state's data.
Yeah - that was a case caught by the news. You think that's the only case?

Here's the ladder incident I mentioned.

Man who died after falling from a 10-foot ladder was actually killed by COVID-19: doctors

The unnamed 51-year-old man fell into a yard while building a home earlier this year and suffered cuts and bruises to his head, according to the Journal of Forensic Pathology.

The builder was declared dead at the scene, but an autopsy later revealed that COVID-19 had indirectly caused the accident because effects of the illness were disorienting, the journal notes.


He died from the fall. He did not die because of COVID.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:46 AM
 
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From YOUR article:

Earlier this week, the Florida Department of Health sent FOX 35 News a statement that attempted to clarify that a "COVID death" is determined if, "COVID19 is listed as the immediate or underlying cause of death, or listed as one of the significant conditions contributing to death.

...health officials confirm that a motorcycle death that was initially counted among COVID-19 fatalities has been removed from the state's data.

Thanks Fox35. If it weren't for them it would still be counted incorrectly. How many that a news company didn't bring to their attention are still there? Seems like an easy error to catch.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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News group of record strikes again...

Government That Shut Down Businesses, Parks, Schools, Beaches, And Churches For 2 Years Says There’s Nothing We Can Do To Stop A Disease Spread By Gay Sex

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky held a press conference today where she made the somber announcement that they've tried everything and can't think of a single thing that would stop the spread of this disease which spreads via homosexual encounters.

"Uh... yeah, nothing we can think of that would help prevent this," said Walensky of the virus that is infecting only gay men the vast majority of the time. "Just, uh, keep doing what you're doing. We don't want to disrupt essential activities such as gay orgies where monkeypox is spreading almost exclusively. We wouldn't expect gay men to be able to abstain from having sex with dozens of strangers for a couple of weeks. That's, uh, that's what we think of them."


The satire continues to get more truthful every day.
Now, THAT is funny. (And, in kind of a sad way.)
And very true (although, as always, a month ahead of the normal news).
 
Old 08-01-2022, 11:01 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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From YOUR article:
...
...health officials confirm that a motorcycle death that was initially counted among COVID-19 fatalities has been removed from the state's data.
From state data. Not from national data.
The Deep State will still count him.

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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
No, the study you are misrepresenting all died from covid. Of those, only about 6% had no comorbidities. The ones with comorbidities still died from covid.
No, they died with covid. There seems to be about 4 to 1 difference.

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Yes, the people at VAERS are evaluating the data. Here is how it is done:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632204/

Here is the current report on covid vaccines:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

...
You need to decide whether you are going to be known as a person of science, or a political tool.

That first link is just an explanatory article, about VAERS, and tells us nothing about producing any product that is more accurate than VAERS. One of the things it mentions, does lead me to believe it is used to reduce the accountability of vaccine manufactures, by diverting attention away from the system designed to hold them accountable.

The second link is to a propaganda paper, designed to push an agenda, not enlighten the reader.
 
Old 08-01-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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Here's another for you Leo where 25% of county deaths were wrongly put in the COVID death column...

County finds it overcounted COVID-19 deaths by 25%, says some deaths 'clearly not caused by COVID'

A California county is revising its COVID-19 death total after a review found that a quarter of the deaths that were attributed to COVID-19 were not caused by the disease.

...
At issue was the definition the county was using to count COVID-19 deaths, requiring only that a patient tested positive for the virus when they died, even if they did not die as a direct result of the virus. In one such case, a person who tested positive for COVID-19 and died in a car crash was recorded as a COVID-19 death.

The revised count now shows the county has recorded 1,223 COVID-19 deaths, down from 1,634. The 411 cases removed from the list is a 25% reduction in overall virus deaths for the county.
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