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Old 08-04-2022, 09:56 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn View Post
From his own lips when asked what is the intent of the current firearm legislation.

This flies in the face of the Constitution, and Dems aren't honest enough to admit that they won't stop here. The SCOTUS has already confirmed/declared the use of weapons in common use. There are 20,000,000 AR15's owned by Americans.

Almost 400,000,000 firearms most of which are common use. Rifles, handguns, shotguns.
A complete ban followed by mandatory voluntary confiscation has always, ALWAYS been the end game.

It started out with Handgun Control, Inc. and they succeeded in getting small caliber somewhat inexpensive handguns off the market. They then sensed a change in attitudes, and to capitalize on the Reagan assassination attempt, and changed their name to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

No matter the name or what they say publicly the end goal is a ban and confiscation.
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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As always, my weapons can be confiscated one round at a time.

PS: Nadler is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Try a salad for God's sake.
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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the 2 sentences are contradictory

“The Assault Weapons Ban Act would prohibit the sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. At the same time, it grandfathers existing semiautomatic assault weapons and contains numerous protections for law enforcement and responsible gun owners, such as hunters, gun collectors, farmers, sport shooters, and those who use firearms for self-defense.


so it bans possession, but grandfathers the existing 450million weapons...... so in other words (IOW) it does nothing
AGAIN: Please people do some research. I'll try to type is plainly:

NOTHING WAS BANNED BY THE AWB OTHER THAN COSMETIC FEATURES OF CERTAIN RIFLES. THOSE SAME RIFLES WERE SIMPLY MANUFACTURED AND SOLD WITHOUT THOSE COSMETIC FEATURES AFTER THE "AWB."

Does everyone understand this yet?

"Banning" simple semi-automatic firearms like AR-15s was just as unconstitutional in 1994 as it is today. They were not banned. They simply banned COSMETIC FEATURES of said guns such as flash hiders, bayonet lugs, etc. None of these features affects performance of the firearm.

They "defined" an "assault weapon" as a gun with these features, so the NEW GUNS manufactured after the ban without those features were said to NOT be "assault weapons," therefore they successfully "banned" them. It was for show.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THIS YET?

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Old 08-04-2022, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This pretty much sums up the whole debate on gun control:

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The debate over gun control can be summed up thusly: Those of us who don't like guns in the hands of our non-costumed brethren, will vote to ensure men with guns, under the guise of the "law," will come and take the property that is rightfully yours, killing you should you resist our will sufficiently.

This is what we call "violence by-proxy" and makes the voter for violence no less culpable in the extortion and death that will ensue.

As Stefan Molyneux correctly observed; if a person claims they are non-violent and are for “gun control” they are not truly anti-gun nor are they non-violent people - because the reality is that guns and violence will be needed to disarm innocent law abiding people.

This is because those people who claim they are anti-gun and anti-violence, who claim to support “gun control,” will need the credible threat of police violence and the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns should they resist the attempt to further centralize their monopoly on violence.

So those who claim to be anti-gun and anti-violence are really very pro-gun and very pro-violence. They ultimately believe that only government officials (which are of course portrayed as reliable, honest, moral, and virtuous) should be allowed to have guns. This obviously flies in the face of reality as the 20th century has proven once and for all.

It’s important to note that those who advocate this type of centralized monopoly of violence do so as cowards, because it’s not their lives on the line, rather they advocate others using violence on their behalf in
order to force their misguided views on innocent people who wish to do nothing other than protect themselves and other innocents.

There is no such thing as "gun control," there is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political class and the forces they control which, as recent history has proven is a murderous nightmare for the peace loving, disenfranchised, and disarmed citizenry.--Ron Danielowski
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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Deep Blue state residents are increasingly buying guns due to the fear of having to protect themselves or their families.

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Even in the deepest deep blue of “Taxachusetts” — one of the states with traditionally very low per capita gun ownership — firearms sales have not just doubled but tripled in some locations since 2019, WBUR-FM in Boston reported Wednesday.
https://www.westernjournal.com/fear-...ears-straight/
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
the 2 sentences are contradictory

“The Assault Weapons Ban Act would prohibit the sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. At the same time, it grandfathers existing semiautomatic assault weapons and contains numerous protections for law enforcement and responsible gun owners, such as hunters, gun collectors, farmers, sport shooters, and those who use firearms for self-defense.


so it bans possession, but grandfathers the existing 450million weapons...... so in other words (IOW) it does nothing
When the owner dies the estate will have to submit the weapons to the state, for destruction or to be turned over to various criminal gangs which will be "the new community police force." Hitler liked that idea.
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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All of the back and forth.

Sure -- some extremists want to ban all guns but most Democrats in office and voters and independents and swing voters most definitely don't want to ban all guns.

I would love for responsible gun owners to sit down and have a real discussion about what can and can't be done.

I get it -- we all hate any restrictions to our 'freedoms' but we all have to endure some restrictions in order to live in a society.
the 2nd amendment is specific... shall not be infringed....
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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There's no doubt about it. The Democrat Party is out to abolish the 2nd Amendment and outlaw the possession of every firearm in existence except for maybe muzzle loaders. Criminalizing their lawful owners in the process. They use countries such as Great Britain, Australia and Japan as models for restrictive gun laws.

They know that they can not do it in one fell swoop. So they are attempting to do this incrementally by passing law after law, capitalizing on every mass shooting and the criminal/negligent mis-use of firearms. Remember "Never let a good crisis go to waste" is their motto.
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Deep Blue state residents are increasingly buying guns due to the fear of having to protect themselves or their families.



https://www.westernjournal.com/fear-...ears-straight/
Yet they still vote for politicians and support the political party that is working diligently to take their 2nd Amendment rights away. I just don't get it?
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Old 08-04-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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IF people are interested in what he ACTUALLY said.

https://nadler.house.gov/news/docume...umentID=394886
“The Assault Weapons Ban Act would prohibit the sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. At the same time, it grandfathers existing semiautomatic assault weapons and contains numerous protections for law enforcement and responsible gun owners, such as hunters, gun collectors, farmers, sport shooters, and those who use firearms for self-defense.
Please explain from the legislation what "protections" are in place to allow "Responsible" gun owners to be able to purchase or possess these guns that they also prohibit the sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of.
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