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Old 09-25-2023, 04:01 PM
 
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If we had not launched an economic war against Venezuela at the behest of the oil majors and their wall street investors, their economy would not have tanked leaving millions with no way to feed themselves or their families.

By the same token, if we were to end the economic war by ending sanctions on investment and oil imports from Venezuela, it would do more to end the stream of economic refugees to the US than anything else. It might also lower our gas prices.
This ole crap again?
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Old 09-30-2023, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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Actually Colombia has taken most, -about 3 million and are taking more, and Peru and Panama are taking them as well. They are not looking for freebies and they do prefer Spanish speaking warm countries, like their home country
Whoa! So Peru, Panama, and Colombia are taking some? I wasn’t aware of this.
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Old 09-30-2023, 03:01 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era. The CIA had a pretty big part in many of those countries with elections and coups so they could put "their man" in office. The US didn't want any of these countries to grow and become allies of Russia.

Just like what we did to Haiti with Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

We are reaping what our forefathers sowed.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:09 PM
 
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era. The CIA had a pretty big part in many of those countries with elections and coups so they could put "their man" in office. The US didn't want any of these countries to grow and become allies of Russia.

Just like what we did to Haiti with Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

We are reaping what our forefathers sowed.
Complete isolationism and neutrality wouldn't stop these people from trying to enter the United States. Some countries, like Belize, we haven't meddled in (to my knowledge), but that doesn't stop nearly 66,000 Belizeans from entering the USA, which is about roughly 15% of their total population.

Besides that, you really think the US is the only country to have involved itself with the affairs of Latin America? Try Israel, Taiwan, other Latin American countries, South Africa, and even Iran and Brunei have been documented as having ties, at least financially, to affairs in those countries.

Do they have to face the same karmaic backlash and take in migrants too? Have to admit, a couple of hundred thousand 'refugees' from Central and South America showing up onto the shores of Formosa and causing pandemonium in Taipei would have its own sense of twisted humour.
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Old 09-30-2023, 05:34 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Complete isolationism and neutrality wouldn't stop these people from trying to enter the United States. Some countries, like Belize, we haven't meddled in (to my knowledge), but that doesn't stop nearly 66,000 Belizeans from entering the USA, which is about roughly 15% of their total population.

Besides that, you really think the US is the only country to have involved itself with the affairs of Latin America? Try Israel, Taiwan, other Latin American countries, South Africa, and even Iran and Brunei have been documented as having ties, at least financially, to affairs in those countries.

Do they have to face the same karmaic backlash and take in migrants too? Have to admit, a couple of hundred thousand 'refugees' from Central and South America showing up onto the shores of Formosa and causing pandemonium in Taipei would have its own sense of twisted humour.
Financial dealings is one thing.

Political dealing to influence power is quite another
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Old 09-30-2023, 07:09 PM
 
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Financial dealings is one thing.

Political dealing to influence power is quite another

Something which other countries participated in. For example, officers of the Guatemalan government were actually sent over to Taiwan in order to be trained in political warfare.



It wasn't just passive financial investment, there was hands-on participation to help reinforce the governments that were to be put into place by Western or Western aligned actors.

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Old 09-30-2023, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era. The CIA had a pretty big part in many of those countries with elections and coups so they could put "their man" in office. The US didn't want any of these countries to grow and become allies of Russia.

Just like what we did to Haiti with Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

We are reaping what our forefathers sowed.
^This is true. The war on drugs also doesn't help. The USA is pretty much the biggest drug user in the world, and those druggies are directly responsible for the drug cartels in Central and South America. And, I hear the CIA is directly responsible for it because they would purposely release drugs in Black neighborhoods to keep the Black community down and the gangster activities alive and well. It's why I am for breaking up the CIA, FBI, DEA just to name a few because they are not put into power to protect the US, but to bring her down.
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Old 10-01-2023, 09:11 AM
 
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era.
It beginned even earlier, in 1954 in Guatemala and we might add Operation Ajax in Iran as well.
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Old 10-01-2023, 10:13 AM
 
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era. The CIA had a pretty big part in many of those countries with elections and coups so they could put "their man" in office. The US didn't want any of these countries to grow and become allies of Russia.

Just like what we did to Haiti with Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

We are reaping what our forefathers sowed.
Regular Americans have no voice in foreign matters so why should we have to suffer an illegal invasion of our country? Tired of hearing about things that happened 60 years ago and justifying this invasion lately based on that. These foreigners need to deal with their own governments and stop invading ours. This is killing the golden goose. Where will these foreigners and Americans flee to then?

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Old 10-01-2023, 10:18 AM
 
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The US is responsible for most of the economic hardship in the Central and South American countries.

This goes back to the 60's and the Cold War era. The CIA had a pretty big part in many of those countries with elections and coups so they could put "their man" in office. The US didn't want any of these countries to grow and become allies of Russia.

Just like what we did to Haiti with Papa Doc and Baby Doc.

We are reaping what our forefathers sowed.
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