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Zero illegals should be allowed. Everybody knows that's not possible, but it should be the goal. Those crossing the southern border should have to apply and get approved just like those from other countries.
One wonders which party is responsible for negotiating and advocating for more, not less restrictions.
D's or R's
Yet the leftists and their propaganda arm (legacy media) will make it sound like it is the (R's) fault.
When Trump made them wait on the other side of the wall it was a humanitarian crisis.
When the Dems in the Senate propose the same (quota) what will they call the tens of thousands left standing outside on the other side ? A "waiting room" ?
Are you saying there are no conservatives who want to stop immigration simply because they are racists and/or xenophobes?
If you do not support affirmative action, are you a racist? If you support the "drug free workplace" are you a racist? if you support the rule of law, are you a racist?
It looks like, some here believe if the outcome seems to focus primarily on one race, it is assumed that the policy was designed to be discriminatory.
By this argument, Bill Cliton signed the 1994 Crime Bill (3 strikes). The outcome was disproportionately affected some communities. Is Bill Clinton a racist?
I feel the purpose of your question is to shut down debate and conversation (Not saying you did this on purpose) Question like this is to prey on people that do not want to have any appearance to racism and bully them into submission.
Politics is a game of compromises. It is never a simple case of "I can't be in a party with people who dislike me." There will always be people in a movement/party who dislike you lol
No one agrees with everything a party stands for, especially in America, where two major parties are expected to represent 311 million citizens.
which party can best help you get to where you want to go is the most important part.
If you do not support affirmative action, are you a racist? If you support the "drug free workplace" are you a racist? if you support the rule of law, are you a racist?
It looks like, some here believe if the outcome seems to focus primarily on one race, it is assumed that the policy was designed to be discriminatory.
By this argument, Bill Cliton signed the 1994 Crime Bill (3 strikes). The outcome was disproportionately affected some communities. Is Bill Clinton a racist?
I feel the purpose of your question is to shut down debate and conversation (Not saying you did this on purpose) Question like this is to prey on people that do not want to have any appearance to racism and bully them into submission.
Politics is a game of compromises. It is never a simple case of "I can't be in a party with people who dislike me." There will always be people in a movement/party who dislike you lol
No one agrees with everything a party stands for, especially in America, where two major parties are expected to represent 311 million citizens.
which party can best help you get to where you want to go is the most important part.
Notice how these leftists only focus on a minority of racists in the Republicans party rather than the majority who are not? There are racists among the Democrats to but they don't want to talk about that though. This issue has nothing to do with racism anyway it's about our laws and the need for a secure border.
Now, here's a CNN article giving details. It says that if an average of 4,000 illegal aliens/day cross the border during one week, they MAY close the border, and of 5,000 cross, then they MUST close the border. And if 8,500 cross on a single day, then they also MUST close the border.
This is a "compromise"???
Whatever happened to "NO ONE may cross illegally"?
Sounds to me like, "We'll cut down the number of illegal aliens crossing our border, by simply announcing they are all legal now and letting them come in freely".
I have to check the Babylon Bee. This must be in there somewhere.
Key senators cut deal to give US new power to clamp down on border crossings
Manu Raju
By Manu Raju, CNN
Senate negotiators have agreed to empower the US to significantly restrict illegal migrant crossings at the southern border, according to sources familiar with the matter, a move aimed at ending the migrant surge that has overrun federal authorities over the past several months.
Under the soon-to-be-released package, the Department of Homeland Security would be granted new emergency authority to shut down the border if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS would be required to close the border to migrants crossing illegally not entering at ports of entry. Certain migrants would be allowed to stay if they prove to be fleeing torture or persecution in their countries.
Moreover, if crossings exceed 8,500 in a single day, DHS would be required to close the border to migrants illegally crossing the border. Under the proposal, any migrant who tries to cross the border twice while it is closed would be banned from entering the US for one year.
President Biden gave a rousing speech declaring ” I will close the Border on Day One when I sign this Bill”
Most media either don’t mention the detail of what “close the border” means or it’s buried in a long paragraphs about how many illegals get to come in Daily, weekly or Monthly BEFORE the “close the Border” is invoked. (Loopholes to that also)
The part that they close is all the land between the Legal Crossings. It’s already NOT LEGAL to enter the United States at anything other than a order Checkpoint — a Legal Port of Entry.
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Originally Posted by Malloric
The current law is an unlimited number of people without permission are allowed in every day. They just come in and say I'd like to apply for asylum and they're in. Takes over 5 years for a hearing. Some kind of quota on that number seems more reasonable than the current law which is all of them can come in and claim assylum.
On the one hand you have the people that want all the browns deported for looking brown and on the other hand you have the people that think the current law that everyone can come in and claim assylum all the time is totally awesome. Somewhere in the middle... aka a compromise... lies the answer.
We have Immigration Laws on the books right now on what a Legal Point of Entry is.
Shelby Park is NOT a Port of Entry. There are Legal Ports of Entry at Eagle Pass, vehicle, pedestrian & Rail - TeamBiden shut down those Legal Ports of Entry in December, I hear Rail is open again, haven’t checked the other Bridges in a couple of days.
Am I the only person who understands that the Democrats are whining because Biden claims he wants the Authority to do what Texas has already done at Shelby Park in Eagle Pass with the Razor Sire & Texas Military? TeamBiden has always had that Authority, he wants something else out of this “REFORM Bill”.
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Originally Posted by webster
The GOP needs to come up with an alternative plan. So far all they can do is criticize. There should be an alternative plan coming out of the House, but can they even agree among themselves?
As others have said — that’s what H.R. 2 is. Why do t the Democrats support it? It’s an enforcement Law.
Democrats demand thrir multi-1,000’s of pages of “Comprehensive Reform.” — which translates to big money for resettlement of illegal aliens, giveaways to NGO Groups and lots of “Free” to the illegals.
Now, here's a CNN article giving details. It says that if an average of 4,000 illegal aliens/day cross the border during one week, they MAY close the border, and of 5,000 cross, then they MUST close the border. And if 8,500 cross on a single day, then they also MUST close the border.
This is a "compromise"???
Whatever happened to "NO ONE may cross illegally"?
Sounds to me like, "We'll cut down the number of illegal aliens crossing our border, by simply announcing they are all legal now and letting them come in freely".
I have to check the Babylon Bee. This must be in there somewhere.
Key senators cut deal to give US new power to clamp down on border crossings
Manu Raju
By Manu Raju, CNN
Senate negotiators have agreed to empower the US to significantly restrict illegal migrant crossings at the southern border, according to sources familiar with the matter, a move aimed at ending the migrant surge that has overrun federal authorities over the past several months.
Under the soon-to-be-released package, the Department of Homeland Security would be granted new emergency authority to shut down the border if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS would be required to close the border to migrants crossing illegally not entering at ports of entry. Certain migrants would be allowed to stay if they prove to be fleeing torture or persecution in their countries.
Moreover, if crossings exceed 8,500 in a single day, DHS would be required to close the border to migrants illegally crossing the border. Under the proposal, any migrant who tries to cross the border twice while it is closed would be banned from entering the US for one year.
Barack Obama's head border guy stated that 1,000 illegal crossings per-day cripples the system. So, allowing four times that many is somehow a compromise?
Remember when Obamacare architect Jon Gruber said in 2013 that the political class relies upon the stupidity of the American voter?
As others have said — that’s what H.R. 2 is. Why do t the Democrats support it? It’s an enforcement Law.
Democrats demand thrir multi-1,000’s of pages of “Comprehensive Reform.” — which translates to big money for resettlement of illegal aliens, giveaways to NGO Groups and lots of “Free” to the illegals.
Well from several posts here the Dems don't even know about HR2 and that it was passed last year and handed off to the Senate.
Probably because the MSM didn't tell them.
And that's why you see posts "Well what have the Republicans done ?"
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