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Old 02-10-2024, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Biden’s Presidency has been overall quite successful.

- Two years of the lowest unemployment numbers in history.
- Solid GDP growth
- First major infrastructure investment bill in decades
- Stock market just hit record highs
- Rallied NATO to oppose Russian aggression in Ukraine

So, one of two things must be happening. Either Joe is not so incompetent as everyone seems to think, or all the decisions are being made by his “handlers”, as many here have suggested. Either way, the results are good. I’m comfortable having a figurehead President with a competent administrative team, as opposed to a loose cannon maniac that no one can control (aka, the Former Guy).
Short and sweet, the above post is a prime example of the deep rot that has infected many people of voting age in this country.
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Old 02-10-2024, 02:45 PM
 
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I think most Americans are seeing the reality, Biden is totally shot and it is shiveringly-bad to think
of him doing another term as POTUS.

These last few days feel like a game-changer for the Dems, I think the pressure is
going to be just too much, they will have to do something to get Biden out
of the running for 2024.
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Old 02-10-2024, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...cerns-00140814

Wow. This is getting pathetic folks. Biden is an old man and his handlers are forcing him to come out of hiding. This is becoming the plot to “Weekend at Bernies.”

His tactic is to hide, so let him hide. Its nap time.
Sounds like they're getting desperate, and willing to take some really strong risks. They're pretty much telling their own guy to "put up or shut up". Of course, that's what those on the right side have been saying ever since the campaign leading to the 2020 election.
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Old 02-10-2024, 03:31 PM
 
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Right alongside Marshal, will and holly....


(ok Im REALLY showing my age)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3m7Xow0YxE
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Old 02-10-2024, 03:40 PM
 
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I agree with you in theory; however, there is the "Kamala problem".

Kamala was tapped in the first place because she was a black female. No other reason. She checked the required boxes.

How can the Dems remove Kamala, the first black female VP in history, and replace her with a white man that is literally the epitome of white privilege?

Can you imagine the outcries of the liberals and blacks if they were to do that?

This is why the rumors of Michelle Obama are everywhere.
She was a black female. And being a state AG she was a cohort and friend of Biden’s son Beau. Must have been the only black female Biden had any knowledge about. There were sure more qualified and more personable black females out there.
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Old 02-10-2024, 04:49 PM
 
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We all saw what it looked like when Joe Biden decided to "engage the press". He showed signs of OldManAnger, and still managed to sneak in another gaffe about the president of Mexico/Egypt.

What the Democrats do not want to admit is that Joe Sliden has been heading downhill since 2021, and he is not going to get any better. The end is near for Biden. Asking him to engage with the public will be nothing short of a disaster.
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Old 02-10-2024, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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We all saw what it looked like when Joe Biden decided to "engage the press". He showed signs of OldManAnger, and still managed to sneak in another gaffe about the president of Mexico/Egypt.

What the Democrats do not want to admit is that Joe Sliden has been heading downhill since 2021, and he is not going to get any better. The end is near for Biden. Asking him to engage with the public will be nothing short of a disaster.
People keep saying 2021, but it was very obvious in 2019 when he was campaigning and especially in his appearance on "The View", which left even the hosts somewhat baffled. In one part of the interview, part of his reply made absolutely no sense at all, IIRC.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/polit...iew/index.html

(Mysteriously, the interview is no longer available on YouTube.)

And here is a gaffe compilation from the 2020 campaign trail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slm5bvO-_5I&t=20s

(And, yes, many of the above CAN be attributed to 'stuttering', but certainly not all (or maybe even most) of them.)

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Old 02-10-2024, 05:12 PM
 
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Biden’s Presidency has been overall quite successful.

- Two years of the lowest unemployment numbers in history.
- Solid GDP growth
- First major infrastructure investment bill in decades
- Stock market just hit record highs
- Rallied NATO to oppose Russian aggression in Ukraine

So, one of two things must be happening. Either Joe is not so incompetent as everyone seems to think, or all the decisions are being made by his “handlers”, as many here have suggested. Either way, the results are good. I’m comfortable having a figurehead President with a competent administrative team, as opposed to a loose cannon maniac that no one can control (aka, the Former Guy).
The problem you have though is that not everyone is a core democrat no matter what which is maybe 25%.

When the polls come out early next week at the lastest after the report and the presser debacle....you are going to be seeing some really sour numbers.

I don't want either Biden or Trump in the Whitehouse, been warning you guys for a year to not just let Biden run unopposed....but no.

P.S. At least it's really not refutable anymore that his cognitive ability is slipping by a significant amount. "I don't think it matters" is at least an honest excuse.
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:17 PM
 
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The problem you have though is that not everyone is a core democrat no matter what which is maybe 25%.

When the polls come out early next week at the lastest after the report and the presser debacle....you are going to be seeing some really sour numbers.

I don't want either Biden or Trump in the Whitehouse, been warning you guys for a year to not just let Biden run unopposed....but no.

P.S. At least it's really not refutable anymore that his cognitive ability is slipping by a significant amount. "I don't think it matters" is at least an honest excuse.
And a very revealing one.
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Old 02-10-2024, 09:49 PM
 
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The uptick in young voter turnout from 2016 to 2020 was 11 percent. A staggering turnout rate, which leaned most Democrat up and down the ticket, but this was done with promises of a major overhaul in climate change policy, "Student Loan Forgiveness", and gobs and gobs of dollars spent on ballot harvest and ballot chasing by the DNC.

All things being equal, if about 3 percent of those young voters simply stay home in 2024, then Trump wins the general election, assuming a "free and fair election"

There are a quarter million Muslims in Michigan, a battleground state, who are saying by their organizers, that they will sit out the 2024 election over the Israel/Hamas conflict. There are millions of Muslim voters to deal with if you add in other states, including the battleground of Pennsylvania.

Biden cannot win POTUS again without the needed electoral votes. The key electoral votes are in the battleground states. What is the day to day reality of the working class there? For a lot of working class Americans, this "growth" sure looks damn top heavy. A bump in the stock market is great for those with the extra income to do stocks. What about every day people just trying to scrape enough to buy groceries? Infrastructure looks nice, until one looks closer and it's just more political pork to Biden's large scale corporate donors. Ukraine funding? You mean taxpayers being told they need to foot the bill for two more potential forever wars, plus up to 10 million illegal immigrants, while many of those same Americans can't find affordable housing.

If working class Americans in battleground states (where currently Trump is leading in the polling in ALL OF THEM) turn on Biden, or simply many who voted for him in 2020 decide to sit out, then Trump wins 2024 POTUS.

You are pushing the same talking points as the activist leftist MSM. This comes down to electoral votes, battleground states and the specific voting blocks in those states. At the current trajectory, Biden/Harris don't have the numbers to win the 2024 general election, again, assuming it's a free and fair election.
I stated that Biden’s presidency has been successful, overall. Your post is mainly saying that Biden will lose reelection. I agree with you. Both things can be true. People have been slow to recognize the strong economy. Consumer confidence has only recently started to improve; it might be too little too late. Biden’s leadership regarding Ukraine is the type of thing that may only be recognized in retrospect, such as Truman’s Marshall Plan.
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