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08-19-2008, 09:56 PM
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Religious Nutcase Docs Told to DO YOUR JOB!
Once again medical "professionals" are trying to bring their religious beliefs where they don't belong- in the workplace. First the Paramacist and now the doctors! Hey, will all the Christian nurses now demand that the hospitals close on Sunday?? What is next?? If you want to let homosexuals bleed to death in the ER, find another profession Doc!
Religious rights? Not for doctors
A state Supreme Court today ruled that constitutional freedom of religion does not permit doctors to refuse services to homosexual clients, even when those services would violate doctors' moral and religious convictions.
In a unanimous decision, the California State Supreme Court ruled against two Christian doctors at a San Diego-area fertility clinic who refused to provide a medical procedure for artificial insemination to a lesbian couple.
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08-19-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KevK
Once again medical "professionals" are trying to bring their religious beliefs where they don't belong- in the workplace. First the Paramacist and now the doctors! Hey, will all the Christian nurses now demand that the hospitals close on Sunday?? What is next?? If you want to let homosexuals bleed to death in the ER, find another profession Doc!
Religious rights? Not for doctors
A state Supreme Court today ruled that constitutional freedom of religion does not permit doctors to refuse services to homosexual clients, even when those services would violate doctors' moral and religious convictions.
In a unanimous decision, the California State Supreme Court ruled against two Christian doctors at a San Diego-area fertility clinic who refused to provide a medical procedure for artificial insemination to a lesbian couple.
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This is yet another reason why America is falling behind in our educational and health care system.
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08-19-2008, 10:02 PM
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The tower, the tower! Rapunzel, Rapunzel!
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Originally Posted by KevK
Once again medical "professionals" are trying to bring their religious beliefs where they don't belong- in the workplace. First the Paramacist and now the doctors! Hey, will all the Christian nurses now demand that the hospitals close on Sunday?? What is next?? If you want to let homosexuals bleed to death in the ER, find another profession Doc!
Religious rights? Not for doctors
A state Supreme Court today ruled that constitutional freedom of religion does not permit doctors to refuse services to homosexual clients, even when those services would violate doctors' moral and religious convictions.
In a unanimous decision, the California State Supreme Court ruled against two Christian doctors at a San Diego-area fertility clinic who refused to provide a medical procedure for artificial insemination to a lesbian couple.
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ONe of the reasons I am glad I left California. A doctor should not be forced to help bring a child in to the world that intentionally will be denied a father.
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08-19-2008, 10:05 PM
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I understand people have a religious objection to certain things and that's fine.
I guess if you really hate homosexuals (or any other group) that much and don't want to perform procedures on them, you need to open your own private hospital and then you can discriminate all you want. At the same time, I wouldn't want a dime of tax dollars going to the hospital.
As a lesbian, it's fine if a doctor doesn't want to treat me because they hate homosexuals but I just hope I'm not dying at the time and another doctor is there to treat me.
If they have their own private business, they can discriminate all they want provided they didn't and don't receive any public funds.
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08-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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OP. you are aware that the couple who sued was not 'bleeding to death in an ER' but seeking an elective procedure in a private medical practice??
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08-19-2008, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rb4browns
ONe of the reasons I am glad I left California. A doctor should not be forced to help bring a child in to the world that intentionally will be denied a father.
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Just to be clear, you would not be supportive of a woman who used the sperm of her dead husband in order to bring a child into this world, right?
Also if a woman is giving birth and her husband recently died, you wouldn't want a doctor to help her in the labor and delivery of this child, right?
OR if a single woman wants to have her own child, you would be against this as well, right?
I think a doctor is free to discriminate all he or she wants provided they aren't treating Medicare, medicaid, etc patients. If he or she is operating their own clinic/practice/hospital that isn't receiving tax dollars, they can be as homophobic,racist, agist, etc as they want. Just put a sign up so I'll know not to give them my time or money.
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08-19-2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveTodayLez08
I understand people have a religious objection to certain things and that's fine.
I guess if you really hate homosexuals (or any other group) that much and don't want to perform procedures on them, you need to open your own private hospital and then you can discriminate all you want. At the same time, I wouldn't want a dime of tax dollars going to the hospital.
As a lesbian, it's fine if a doctor doesn't want to treat me because they hate homosexuals but I just hope I'm not dying at the time and another doctor is there to treat me.
If they have their own private business, they can discriminate all they want provided they didn't and don't receive any public funds.
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I don't agree. If a business is open to the public, it should be banned from discriminating against anybody what so ever. If the doc is a "private doc" and only treats exclusive clients as some plastic surgeons do, that is one thing. But if he is open to the public (anybody can call for an appointment), he has to obey the laws/
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08-19-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NCyank
OP. you are aware that the couple who sued was not 'bleeding to death in an ER' but seeking an elective procedure in a private medical practice??
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The SAME principle applies.
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08-19-2008, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KevK
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I don't agree. If a business is open to the public, it should be banned from discriminating against anybody what so ever. If the doc is a "private doc" and only treats exclusive clients as some plastic surgeons do, that is one thing. But if he is open to the public (anybody can call for an appointment), he has to obey the laws/
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That's essentially what I am saying, if you have your own private business, you can discriminate. Just have a little message or disclaimer, "This business/clinic/hospital only accepts Christian caucasian heterosexual patients only" or whatever group you want to have.
I certainly wouldn't mind a clinic just for LGBT people only, just as I'm sure some people wouldn't mind if their doctor ONLY treated Christian heterosexuals.
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08-19-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveTodayLez08
That's essentially what I am saying, if you have your own private business, you can discriminate. Just have a little message or disclaimer, "This business/clinic/hospital only accepts Christian caucasian heterosexual patients only" or whatever group you want to have.
I certainly wouldn't mind a clinic just for LGBT people only, just as I'm sure some people wouldn't mind if their doctor ONLY treated Christian heterosexuals.
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If I want to go to a gay or lesbian doctor, I expect to be treated and not even asked whether I am gay or hedrosexual. It is not his damn business unless he suspects something unique to gays or hedros.
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