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Old 01-25-2009, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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since the brain is not developed, the fetus would not know at 11 weeks.
Really, read a little before you put your emotional spin on things.
There's a lot of valid, honest information out there from the medical community. And not on the anti-choice sites.

Let me ask you how you feel about wars that kill already born people?
Or aren't they precious once they're born?
i guess you were never an 11 week old fetus you reason like a one of those dumpster babies
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Try some logic and facts instead of insults.
Then again, maybe that's all your intellect can handle.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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the catholic church pointing out anyone else's arrogance is too ludicrous for words, and hypocritical by the way.

Pro life,,,pro choice,,,it doesn't matter!!!!! Abortion is here to stay, it is practiced in every country of the world whether legal or illegal. It will never be eliminated through legislation. It can be kept relatively safe and clean , practiced by medically trained staff - when it's legal.

It is a huge social issue, both sides agree with that.

Most abortions are received by young people. It's a fact, look it up.

We can change one thing. The number of them being preformed every year. Through intensive education of our young, in schools, at home, through public service announcements and by handing out free or very cheap birth control. You will never stop sex. We are wired to want it. Our youth will never disregard sex, the drive for it. Give them the means to stop getting pregnant. I have never understood how so many pro lifers are also the ones demanding very limited sex ed and protesting the use of birth control. You want to stop abortions? Start handing out condoms
just like raper and child rapers.give them more can't stop it
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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Vatican, Catholics and Evengalicals can all go to hell, these people have done more harm to humanity and this earth then any group in history, a shame we cant declare war on the Vatican

What the hell is a Pope anyway, a messenger from god? I wonder how many skeletons are in the Vaticans closet

I am sorry I cant let go of my hatred for members of a certain religion
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
since the brain is not developed, the fetus would not know at 11 weeks.
Really, read a little before you put your emotional spin on things.
There's a lot of valid, honest information out there from the medical community. And not on the anti-choice sites.

Let me ask you how you feel about wars that kill already born people?
Or aren't they precious once they're born?
that is what immorality of this level leads to..war,rebellion just load and lock it is comming to a neighborhood near you
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Originally Posted by lostdestroyedlife View Post
vatican, catholics and evengalicals can all go to hell, these people have done more harm to humanity and this earth then any group in history, a shame we cant declare war on the vatican

what the hell is a pope anyway, a messenger from god? I wonder how many skeletons are in the vaticans closet

i am sorry i cant let go of my hatred for members of a certain religion
do not hate , work to put them out of business
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Vatican accuses Obama of 'arrogance'-Europe-World-The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Vatican_accuses_Obama_of_arrogance/articleshow/4027443.cms - broken link)

I can't believe people (especially Catholics and evangelicals) who voted for him are totally ignorant of his record and ideology on the abortion issue.

Of course, the media did a great job of keeping the issue out of the debates and minimizing his radical record - maybe that's why they are so surprised.
The President of the United States is not elected to serve the vatican or the Catholic religion no more than he is to serve the Southern Baptist. He is elected to serve the people of the United States. If that bothers the Pope or John Hagee I am sorry.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Garden City, MI
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Religious extremists have no place in government. This includes the old school, historically manipulative position of "Pope." Also, historically anti-women.

Obama did the correct thing to to remove the bans. There are enough tax-paying voters who believe in safe alternatives to constant reproduction, that they need the option. People worried about baby killing - don't worry, you can still choose not to have abortions.
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Religious extremists have no place in government. This includes the old school, historically manipulative position of "Pope." Also, historically anti-women.
Everyone has a religion, including secularists. What's different about secularists is that they are radically disconnected from the history and culture around them, and insist that the country at large should move in the same direction -- and furthermore, not understanding religious controversies, they ascribe to religious belief all kinds of unique dangers.

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Obama did the correct thing to to remove the bans. There are enough tax-paying voters who believe in safe alternatives to constant reproduction, that they need the option. People worried about baby killing - don't worry, you can still choose not to have abortions.
This is about how tax money is used, not whether people can have abortions...
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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..........so have you killed alot of your own children.........He is a Marxist and the plan is to divide and conquer , indoctrinate the women and children...........separate the fathers and mothers do away with families ...turn us into slaves

No i've never had to have an abortion, i CHOSE not to. I don't believe in forcing women to have abortions, I DO believe that you don't have the right to choose for them based on your religious hangups.

You can make accusations against anyone you choose it just makes you look like a jerk and it does not help your cause at all. You need some lithium if you are for real. If not you need to get a life.
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